We’ve put in a few hundred fire raptors so far and have no failures on any of 
their units yet. But we’ve only been using them for a year and what 
compensation do they offer 10years from now if the unit fails and doubles the 
customers out of pocket on the system installation? 

Sky Sims
EcologicalSystems.biz

> On Aug 29, 2021, at 9:20 PM, Nick A Lucchese <luccheseso...@me.com> wrote:
> 
> Have many of you had success with the Fire Raptor products approved for 
> Outback? MLSD is a hassle for sure and I’m no fonder of it than the rest of 
> you but meanwhile a few of my near term off grid installations will be 
> needing a solution. I’ve been dragging my feet submitting a permit package 
> for an upcoming off grid project and at the moment it still seems like the 
> Fire Raptor is the best option from what I can tell. Brad Bassett from AEE 
> had confirmed my suspicion of simplicity and sent me a diagram a bit ago with 
> a 48 to 24vdc converter and relay in place of the traditional AC keep alive 
> converter. Product reliability and future surprises aside, it seems like a 
> fairly basic product to integrate. The client is seriously considering a 
> large carport in place of the house for the PV structure so I’m hoping I can 
> dodge yet another MLSD project but I doubt I’m going to get that lucky. From 
> what I know about IMO’s history in industrial controls it seems like the best 
> option to pair with Outback’s offerings to meet compliance these days.
> 
> Thanks for the collective wisdom as always, Nick A Lucchese
> 
> 
> now back to the exploding RSD unit thread…...
> 
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