Well, that didn't resolve it. The main breaker and a branch circuit breaker
tripped again a few days ago. It was the same branch this time.

As my next diagnostic step I swapped two circuits (on which breaker they
are landed). If history is a guide, it will work for about two weeks and
then trip again.

I'm dumbfounded. I really don't want to have to tear this whole system
apart. At this point, if I have to remove all the modules, I feel that I
need to replace all of the trunk cable which is an expensive proposition. I
really don't know what else to do at this point.

Jason


On Mon, May 25, 2020, 10:43 AM Jason Szumlanski <
ja...@floridasolardesigngroup.com> wrote:

> I strongly suspect the CH240 combined breaker was compromised (we will
> see). Since it happened that two different strings tripped, I doubt I have
> two microinverters with internal faults. It has to be the combined breaker.
> I was just surprised that branch circuit breakers were tripping
> simultaneously with the combined output breaker.
>
> Of all the supply side connected systems I have installed, I have never
> seen a combined output fusible disconnect fuse blow, but I have seen many
> combined output breakers tripped. I was worried early on that I would be
> replacing fuses constantly, but that has not been an issue whatsoever.
>
>
>
>
>
>
> On Thu, May 21, 2020 at 11:15 AM <scot.a...@solarcentex.com> wrote:
>
>> Actually, we had a IQ7 string loaded up to its max panel size and max
>> string length and in the spring on cool, clear day, it tripped the string’s
>> associated breaker in the Enphase combiner.
>>
>>
>>
>> We reset but of course that breaker was impaired and it tripped again. We
>> replaced and never had an issue going forward. We suspect the breaker was
>> less than perfect from the start as we’ve add equally nice days since.
>>
>>
>>
>> This almost reminds me of loading up Outback FM80. It says 4,000 watts
>> but in reality, 3,600 is the max when amps spike. I will be extra careful
>> going forward on IQ7 string length when going to the max published…
>>
>>
>>
>> My story.
>>
>>
>>
>> Scot
>>
>>
>>
>> *From:* RE-wrenches <re-wrenches-boun...@lists.re-wrenches.org> *On
>> Behalf Of *Jason Szumlanski
>> *Sent:* Thursday, May 21, 2020 8:57 AM
>> *To:* RE-wrenches <re-wrenches@lists.re-wrenches.org>
>> *Subject:* [RE-wrenches] Enphase intermittent breaker trippjng
>>
>>
>>
>> I'm trying to resolve an intermittent frustrating problem with and
>> Enphase IQ system. There are three AC Branch circuits of 9 microinverters
>> each coming into an Enphase AC combiner.
>>
>>
>>
>> What has been happening is one of the BR220 branch circuit breakers and
>> the combine CH240 breaker in the main backfed load center have been
>> tripping simultaneously. It has happened about four times in the last 6
>> months. It was always the same branch circuit breaker, so we kept
>> investigating that string, checking the junction box, trunk cable, and cap,
>> etc. Finally we swapped out the BR220 breaker.
>>
>>
>>
>> Fast forward 4 weeks, and we got another call. This time a different
>> branch circuit breaker and the main breaker tripped simultaneously. We
>> checked that branch circuit and could not find any fault. It seems unlikely
>> that two branch circuit breakers would be faulty, so we have now switched
>> out the CH240 main breaker in hopes that it is the culprit.
>>
>>
>>
>> I'm not totally confident in this resolution and I have my fingers
>> crossed. If that doesn't work, does anyone have any suggestions on another
>> diagnostic step? These intermittent problems are a major hassle. One
>> thought I had was to switch to a supply side interconnection with a fusible
>> disconnect. Maybe the intermittent fault would blow one of the two line
>> fuses so at least I could narrow it down to which line the fault is on if
>> there is in fact a fault.
>>
>>
>>
>> I have experienced two other tripping breaker issues with Enphase systems
>> in the past. Neither of them were systems I installed. One turned out to be
>> branch circuits that were not properly paired up and landed on different
>> breakers. Another time we had an inverter with an internal fault which
>> eventually"blew up" with a loud popping noise and smoke billowing out of
>> it. That happened after resetting a trip breaker multiple times. This case
>> seems to be unrelated to those issues. I'm perplexed.
>>
>>
>>
>> Jason Szumlanski
>>
>> Florida Solar Design Group
>>
>>
>>
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