Regarding thawing frozen batteries be real careful they can take an incredibly 
long time to thaw .

Lotta lead there to get up to temperature it is not in a hurry

Just my .02 !

Bob

> On Dec 3, 2015, at 1:54 PM, Dan Fink <danbo...@gmail.com> wrote:
> 
> Yes, you MUST thaw them completely first before trying anything, Sorry, I 
> thought that went without saying.
> Good point on the cost-benefit analysis, but when the cost of transportation 
> of a new battery bank and removal of the old exceeds the retail price by 2 - 
> 10x, it's worth trying. If the client can just drive an hour to Sam's Club 
> and buy another set, a $600 service call is likely not worth it. Just direct 
> them to the Battery University website and wash your hands of it.
> 
> Dan Fink
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>> On Thu, Dec 3, 2015 at 9:14 AM, d...@solarwork.com <d...@solarwork.com> 
>> wrote:
>> My experience with frozen batteries has ranges from plates being pushed 
>> around and consequently shorting to literally the size of the battery being 
>> broken open.
>> The first rule is never try to charge a frozen battery the battery needs to 
>> be thawed first before even attempting to charge I have stop trying to 
>> revive batteries that are that far gone.
>> 
>> Dana Orzel 208.721.7003
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>> On Dec 3, 2015, at 7:00 AM, Feather River Solar Electric <i...@frenergy.net> 
>> wrote:
>> 
>> Hey Folks,
>> 
>>         I came across an off-gridder yesterday whom was getting zero support 
>> from the dealer he had purchased his small system from, self installed, 
>> batteries in a lightly insulated box outside.  When I inspected the 
>> electrolyte levels I discovered it was frozen in some cells, the voltage of 
>> the 48 volt pack was ~8 volts, I didn't check individual batteries due to 
>> these facts...I'd seen "enough".  Recently temps have been in the high 
>> teens, though we are back up to low 30's.
>> 
>>         He does not have a genny or battery charger! I have a DC genny which 
>> I could use to charge these batteries but should I waste my time and his 
>> money trying to save them?  Others' experience with this situation?
>> 
>> TIA,
>> 
>> Bill
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