Re: [RE-wrenches] Voltage Degradation with Uni-Solar laminate

[Allan Sindelar]

Jay, Whoa, I'd be careful there. Unless there's been a change while I was away on my bicycle, Outbacks are still 140V rated maximum voltage and 150V hard maximum. 142Voc in May suggests that doubling strings in series will easily exceed max Voc in winter. That's why I previously suggested Classic 200 or 250. Am I missing something? Allan Allan Sindelar al...@sindelarsolar.com NABCEP Certified PV Installation Professional NABCEP Certified Technical Sales Professional New Mexico EE98J Journeyman Electrician Founder (Retired), Positive Energy, Inc. 505 780-2738 cell   On 5/31/2015 2:23 PM, jay peltz wrote: HI Luke, To add here.  I'm unclear if you have measured each string or the whole array at 71v.   I would check each string for voc/isc.   And then if they are consistent, I agree that putting 2 strings in series with a new controller might help out.   You can try it with the MX-60 as you are at only 142v. If it works better then a new higher voltage CC would be required for winter higher voc. Let us know what you find out. jay On 5/31/2015 11:55 AM, Luke Christy wrote: Hello Off-Grid Wrenches, I recently made a periodic maintenance visit to a residential off-grid system I take care of here in Southern CO, and discovered an interesting problem. This system has an array of 48x Uni-Solar PVL-68 laminate modules applied directly to standing-seam metal roofing. The data logging on the controller (Outback MX-60) indicated that the system was having trouble completing a charge cycle and going to float. Initially I assumed was due to heavy electrical use by the occupants (renters). After a little checking, I noticed that the module string voltage was only about 0.5V above the battery voltage! This was a cool late morning, with full sun, and the array was charging almost 2kW at 54.5V. The module strings were running at 55V. I've noticed the module voltage being lower than I'd like before, but it has never been this low. I suspect this is the real reason the system hasn't been able to complete a charge cycle. By removing the loads I was able to get an open-circuit voltage of 71V, but that still seems pretty low. Has anyone else experienced a voltage degradation issue with the Uni-Solar laminate? What was the expected annual voltage degradation for this technology? These modules do have some age on them. The system was installed about 15 years ago (by a competent installer who is now retired). The system was installed before MPPT controllers were common, so I assume the modules are wired in strings of 4 for 48V nominal. Any experiences or opinions are appreciated. Thanks in advance. -Luke Luke Christy Jay Peltz Peltz Power jay.pe...@gmail.com _______________________________________________ List sponsored by Redwood Alliance List Address: RE-wrenches@lists.re-wrenches.org Change listserver email address & settings: http://lists.re-wrenches.org/options.cgi/re-wrenches-re-wrenches.org List-Archive: http://www.mail-archive.com/re-wrenches@lists.re-wrenches.org/maillist.html List rules & etiquette: www.re-wrenches.org/etiquette.htm Check out or update participant bios: www.members.re-wrenches.org

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