I'd vote to listen to the manufacturer. It's in their best interest to provide 
a reliable solution. Good call. 


On May 31, 2011, at 8:23 PM, "Wayne Irwin" <wa...@pureenergysolar.com> wrote:

> I think the verdict is 12 - Rolls 2-YS-31 2430 AH @ 20 HR (one string) and 
> one dry spare in storage is the best case scenario!
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> Date: Tue, 31 May 2011 18:16:56 -0600
> From: al...@positiveenergysolar.com
> To: re-wrenches@lists.re-wrenches.org
> Subject: Re: [RE-wrenches] 24 volt Battery Bank comparison
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> Tom,
> Yes, but if you use individual 2V cells, you can pull one failed cell out of 
> the string and get by just fine by adjusting setpoints down by 8% (11/12ths). 
> You'll lose 8% of capacity until a cell is replaced; or, if the failed cell 
> is the first to go at end-of-life, just live with the remaining 22V bank 
> while collecting funds for the replacement set ("You have been setting aside 
> some money each year for that set, haven't you?"). 
> 
> Using two strings is fine, but if the smaller strings are made up of 4V or 6V 
> cases, you no longer can remove just one cell. Rather, you must disconnect 
> one string and live on 50% capacity (or 67% with two out of three strings) 
> until a replacement is secured. 
> 
> Based on the above, I'd usually go with a single string of the best batteries 
> I can find. Personally, I like what Chris Worcester wrote:
> My one string of 1476 AH IBE 2 V cells went 19 years before retiring them to 
> a neighbor’s off grid system, where they are now working. One string has my 
> vote!
> 
> as I just put that exact size of IBE 2V cells in my own home. Here's hoping I 
> get another 18 years and 10 months out of them. 
> Allan
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> On 5/31/2011 5:36 PM, Tom Elliot wrote:
> From a reliability standpoint I would never want to bet the farm on one 
> string.  All it takes is the failure of one cell and the system is useless 
> until it is replaced.  Three strings means a cell failure only reduces 
> capacity by 33% not 100%.  I’ve always thought in off-grid systems it is a 
> good idea to build in as much redundancy as possible whenever possible.  Oh, 
> and always use a buss bar system with multiple strings, it makes for a far 
> more stable system with less stress on the batteries.
>  
> Tom
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