Apparently this is the "modern" design method used in many european systems. It scares me too. But from several sources, this seems to be considered one of the most reliable design methods for closed loop systems (ie. it works even without electronic controls working, power outages, etc).

Standard glycol. The main point seems to be the design of the pipes and collectors need to facilitate collector draining from the steam pushing the fluid back into the expansion tank, so the collectors empty themselves. Its closed loop, but effectively becomes a "pressurized drainback" in over heating conditions.

Here is a couple of links:
        http://www.aee-intec.at/0uploads/dateien48.pdf
        http://www.suterconsulting.com/CISBAT.pdf

I'm hoping to find someone with experience with this kind of system to overcome my fears

Troy Harvey
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On Apr 23, 2009, at 11:04 AM, Dana wrote:

I have only seen boiled glycol turn to a cola like syrup that had to be
purged and removed.

What kind of system & glycol is this?
Where would you expand that much?

Can you provide a link to this paper?

We use heat dumps.




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-----Original Message-----
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[mailto:re-wrenches-boun...@lists.re-wrenches.org] On Behalf Of Troy Harvey
Sent: Thursday, April 23, 2009 10:43 AM
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Subject: [RE-wrenches] Solar Combi-systems: Heat dump or Stagnate?

I'm wondering how many of you out there have installed medium sized
solar hot water systems (6-8 panel) that were designed to stagnate
during summertime over production as opposed to diverting to a heat
dump or radiator? The International solar agency has a couple of
papers that show a properly designed system should be able to stagnate
in a way that the boiling glycol mix vapors in the panels, purge the
panels of fluid, turning off the system without degrading the glycol.

That doesn't seem to be a typical way to design systems in the U.S. ,
we've usually gone to a heat dump. Does anyone have experience with
this?


Troy Harvey
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