Off list, please... I hope that everyone that wants to chime in on this will do so in the next few days.
Michael Welch wrote at 10:16 AM 2/13/2009: >Hello Wrenches. As always, please contact me off list about this subject if >you would like to weigh in. > >This is your list, and I run it by a consensus of your wishes. If any changes >are to be made, I have tried to at least come close to a consensus among the >Wrenches (not manufacturer reps) on the list. We now have a proposed change in >policy before us. > >I am being placed under pressure by Ezra Auerbach to add an otherwise >nonqualified NABCEP staff person, Rebecca Eaton, to the Wrench list so she may >respond on behalf of NABCEP if Wrenches are discussing anything to do with the >org. > >First, I often receive membership requests from nonqualified individuals. >Unless they are technically proficient, they are respectfully turned down, and >have included (among others): the general public, casual installers, >academics, trade organization staff, union staff, and now NABCEP staff. I >think you have clearly and appropriately drawn the line that we want pros on >this list in order to keep the discussion quality high. > >Second, the only exceptions to this have been "technically proficient" >representatives of the companies that manufacture the equipment that you >Wrenches install -- and some time ago, we reached consensus to allow any fully >NABCEP-certified individual, working pro or not. Ezra believes that the >manufacturers' privilege should be extended to the NABCEP staff person. > >Third, I have offered Rebecca, and she accepted, the same thing I offer other >nonqualified individuals that might some time want to post to the list: send >your post to me, and I will post appropriate messages on their behalf. I have >done this several times over the years and in fact, did it for Rebecca once >already. > >Fourth, there are at least 3 NABCEP board members on this list. While they may >not be prepared to respond with the nuts and bolts of NABCEP workings, it >seems to me to be good representation on the list. At a minimum, these members >could alert their staff, who could then respond through the already-available >mechanism mentioned above. > >Until now, my efforts had been behind the scenes, but now it has come to a >head and I need to involve you because this morning I rejected a list post >from Ezra that was an end run around my off-list efforts. Here is that post: > >>Hello Wrenches, >> >>I'm writing to you all wearing my "Chairperson of NABCEP" hat and wishing to >>seek your collective guidance. >> >>The question is: Should the Executive Director of NABCEP be able to post to >>this list on matters germain to the organization? >> >>Following the NABCEP Rant thread our ED tried to get posting access so she >>could issue a timely and factual reply. She was turned down and as it stands >>today she can not post relevant and informative replies. >> >>A very long time ago this list allowed designated representatives from >>manufacturers on to this list so they could speak directly when appropriate >>and we all have learned good stuff from the ensuing dialogue. >> >>It seems ulitmately silly to me that NABCEP Certification "qualifies" for >>list posting access but being the ED of the organization does not. >> >>Please weigh in with your collective thoughts. >> >>Best regards, >> >>Ezra Auerbach _______________________________________________ List sponsored by Home Power magazine List Address: RE-wrenches@lists.re-wrenches.org Options & settings: http://lists.re-wrenches.org/options.cgi/re-wrenches-re-wrenches.org List-Archive: http://lists.re-wrenches.org/pipermail/re-wrenches-re-wrenches.org List rules & etiquette: www.re-wrenches.org/etiquette.htm Check out participant bios: www.members.re-wrenches.org
