Hi Mike I think that NABCEAP is an important part of the solar community, I would vote for them being allowed. perhaps a limited time access incase there is problems. Darryl
--- On Fri, 2/13/09, Michael Welch <michael.we...@re-wrenches.org> wrote: > From: Michael Welch <michael.we...@re-wrenches.org> > Subject: [RE-wrenches] NABCEP > To: re-wrenches@lists.re-wrenches.org > Date: Friday, February 13, 2009, 12:16 PM > Hello Wrenches. As always, please contact me off list about > this subject if you would like to weigh in. > > This is your list, and I run it by a consensus of your > wishes. If any changes are to be made, I have tried to at > least come close to a consensus among the Wrenches (not > manufacturer reps) on the list. We now have a proposed > change in policy before us. > > I am being placed under pressure by Ezra Auerbach to add an > otherwise nonqualified NABCEP staff person, Rebecca Eaton, > to the Wrench list so she may respond on behalf of NABCEP if > Wrenches are discussing anything to do with the org. > > First, I often receive membership requests from > nonqualified individuals. Unless they are technically > proficient, they are respectfully turned down, and have > included (among others): the general public, casual > installers, academics, trade organization staff, union > staff, and now NABCEP staff. I think you have clearly and > appropriately drawn the line that we want pros on this list > in order to keep the discussion quality high. > > Second, the only exceptions to this have been > "technically proficient" representatives of the > companies that manufacture the equipment that you Wrenches > install -- and some time ago, we reached consensus to allow > any fully NABCEP-certified individual, working pro or not. > Ezra believes that the manufacturers' privilege should > be extended to the NABCEP staff person. > > Third, I have offered Rebecca, and she accepted, the same > thing I offer other nonqualified individuals that might some > time want to post to the list: send your post to me, and I > will post appropriate messages on their behalf. I have done > this several times over the years and in fact, did it for > Rebecca once already. > > Fourth, there are at least 3 NABCEP board members on this > list. While they may not be prepared to respond with the > nuts and bolts of NABCEP workings, it seems to me to be good > representation on the list. At a minimum, these members > could alert their staff, who could then respond through the > already-available mechanism mentioned above. > > Until now, my efforts had been behind the scenes, but now > it has come to a head and I need to involve you because this > morning I rejected a list post from Ezra that was an end run > around my off-list efforts. Here is that post: > > >Hello Wrenches, > > > >I'm writing to you all wearing my "Chairperson > of NABCEP" hat and wishing to seek your collective > guidance. > > > >The question is: Should the Executive Director of > NABCEP be able to post to this list on matters germain to > the organization? > > > >Following the NABCEP Rant thread our ED tried to get > posting access so she could issue a timely and factual > reply. She was turned down and as it stands today she can > not post relevant and informative replies. > > > >A very long time ago this list allowed designated > representatives from manufacturers on to this list so they > could speak directly when appropriate and we all have > learned good stuff from the ensuing dialogue. > > > >It seems ulitmately silly to me that NABCEP > Certification "qualifies" for list posting access > but being the ED of the organization does not. > > > >Please weigh in with your collective thoughts. > > > >Best regards, > > > >Ezra Auerbach > > > _______________________________________________ > List sponsored by Home Power magazine > > List Address: RE-wrenches@lists.re-wrenches.org > > Options & settings: > http://lists.re-wrenches.org/options.cgi/re-wrenches-re-wrenches.org > > List-Archive: > http://lists.re-wrenches.org/pipermail/re-wrenches-re-wrenches.org > > List rules & etiquette: > www.re-wrenches.org/etiquette.htm > > Check out participant bios: > www.members.re-wrenches.org _______________________________________________ List sponsored by Home Power magazine List Address: RE-wrenches@lists.re-wrenches.org Options & settings: http://lists.re-wrenches.org/options.cgi/re-wrenches-re-wrenches.org List-Archive: http://lists.re-wrenches.org/pipermail/re-wrenches-re-wrenches.org List rules & etiquette: www.re-wrenches.org/etiquette.htm Check out participant bios: www.members.re-wrenches.org
