I see a question to me there, Patrick, but the details are lost on me and 
even if I understood them I doubt I'd have a clue as it sounds like 
technical frame design well beyond my ken. But feel free to get me a custom 
Rivendel G.O. and I'll be happy to ride it. Grin.

With abandon,
Patrick

On Sunday, February 16, 2014 12:48:22 PM UTC-7, Patrick Moore wrote:
>
> II think my Fargo will take 70s/2.75s, if those had existence; it will 
> take 65s with fenders and room. A dimple or two in the chainstays, the fork 
> a wee bit wider and I daresay it would take 3"/76s -- in fact, they might 
> just barely fit as is. And the Q of the XD2/X2D/whatever with a 113 mm bb 
> leaves a good cm+ on each side (one could squeeze the cranks onto a 108, I 
> think) for a Q of ~160 mm.
>
> The point is not the Fargo but the insight it gives into the Hunquapillar: 
> a few tweaks, methinks, could spread it enough to take 3's, and to make 
> this into a really useful bike. (Juuust kidding.) Can you H owners verify 
> -- Deacon? 
>
> And from my experience, which is sand on 60s-65s, 3" would be pretty darn 
> wide enough for most mortal use.
>
> Though I still anticipate with anticipation the visit of Mojo with his 
> Pugsley ....
>
>
> On Sun, Feb 16, 2014 at 11:31 AM, Mike <mjaw...@gmail.com <javascript:>>wrote:
>
>> On Saturday, February 15, 2014 9:09:21 PM UTC-8, Clayton wrote: 
>>>
>>> I have a serious drool going over the Surly ECR 29+ off road camping 
>>> bike. Now, if Rivendell made such a bike, I would absolutely have to sell 
>>> everything I own and get one. Hint Hint Grant?
>>>
>>  
>> Perfect timing. I've had a serious itch to get back to mountain biking 
>> now that I have a car and access to trails. Just this morning I was looking 
>> at the Surly Ogre/Krampus/Pugsley. It would be tough to decide. On the one 
>> hand an Ogre could do double duty as a commuter but I just can't help but 
>> desire the fatness of a Krampus or Pugs which also accepts 29+. And then 
>> there's the ECR... If I really thought I'd put that to good use, I would 
>> likely just go that route. 
>>  
>> Things appear to be falling into place for a 5 day tour this July and if 
>> I have a mountain bike it'll definitely be of the trail/dirt road variety. 
>> Perhaps the OR Outback (http://velodirt.com/). 
>>  
>> Former RBW employee Daniel was recently in Chile touring on a Pugsley:
>>
>> http://www.whileoutriding.com/bike-talk/where-were-going-we-dont-need-roads
>>  
>> --mike
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