It seems that the fatter tire +1 velolution continues to move forward. The 
ECR/Krampus bikes are a great design but have a few issues, as Jim 
mentioned.  One big issue for me are the rear dropouts which are designed 
 as a compromise between IGH and derailleur hubs.  Singular Cycles also has 
a 29+ bikes in the works but with an EBB and vertical dropouts. Surly also 
has another tire in the works called the Dirt Wizard at 2.75"with bigger 
knobs.

The tougher decision for me is between a 29+ bike and the smaller rimmed 
fat bikes.  In my mind my 2.3" tired 29er is sufficient for most serious 
off road camping. Where the fatter tires help are sandy rides like in the 
California desert. 

Nevertheless, I'd love to see a Riv that fits these big tires.

~mike
Carlsbad Ca.

On Saturday, February 15, 2014 9:09:21 PM UTC-8, Clayton wrote:
>
> I have a serious drool going over the Surly ECR 29+ off road camping bike. 
> Now, if Rivendell made such a bike, I would absolutely have to sell 
> everything I own and get one. Hint Hint Grant?
>

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