I'm pretty sure Steve Paliscar has the following recurring nightmare:

Steve is quietly enjoying a cup of tea and a book of poetry, when he 
notices a faint but menacing 'zipping' sound.  He looks around his room and 
finds nothing.  He tries to go back to his reading, but the zipping 
continues.  He gets up to investigate and pads to the bike room.  To his 
horror, he finds his M.A.P. being attacked by an angry swarm of zip ties.  

:-)

On Friday, January 3, 2014 3:52:02 PM UTC-8, Steve Palincsar wrote:
>
> On 01/03/2014 05:55 PM, Bill Lindsay wrote: 
> > Maybe it's the prototype and Riv caught that detail and the production 
> > ones will have it further back? 
> > Maybe it's on-purpose for those who will not run fenders and will run 
> > knobbies, for less mud stack-up down there? 
> > 
> Misplaced chain stay bridge for good fender line is a common defect in 
> Rivendell designs.  A friend of mine has an Atlantis whose chain stay 
> bridge is positioned so far from ideal she needed to use the full length 
> of a wine cork as a spacer in order to get a decent fender line.   
> Although providing ample clearance for fenders is high on the list, 
> sweating the details for perfect permanent mounting doesn't get much 
> attention.  (After all, consider the whole zip-tie the fenders on 
> thing...) 
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