Bill pointed out that it's only 17mm higher Steve in the 65cm. size.  
That's not a whole lot more than a classic steel road frame with it's 
naturally higher head tube than seat tube. 

On Friday, November 15, 2013 2:09:14 PM UTC-5, Steve Palincsar wrote:
>
> On 11/15/2013 10:49 AM, Anton Tutter wrote: 
> > I think he meant that the seat tube extension might limit the size 
> > frame one can fit, 
>
> In other words, can't the saddle low enough? 
>
>
> > and without the extension one might otherwise order the next size up, 
> > getting a higher head tube. 
> > 
>
>
> I think this entire discussion is based on a misunderstanding. Looking 
> at the geometry chart 
> http://www.somafab.com/archives/product/grand-randonneur-frame-set the 
> illustration makes it clear this is a sloper, and not just a wee little 
> one, like the Rambouillet/Atlantis, either.  Even with the seat tube 
> extension, the head tube itself, never mind the headset stack, etc., is 
> significantly higher than the end of the seat tube. It looks like with 
> both stem and seat post slammed the bars are going to be significantly 
> higher than the saddle. 
>
>
>

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