Also, can anyone compare this to the Velo Orange Polyvalent MKII?

On Wed, Nov 13, 2013 at 4:14 PM, Peter Morgano <uscpeter11...@gmail.com>wrote:

> I have to say that is a tempting choice for a 650b round town bike. I love
> my bombadil but with a stumpjumper and a MB2 I feel I have a lot of overlap
> in my stable right now. Would this be considered "livelier" than a Sam H?
>
>
> On Wed, Nov 13, 2013 at 2:49 PM, NickBull <nick.bike.b...@gmail.com>wrote:
>
>> Garth,
>>
>> You are hypothesizing and coming to incorrect conclusions.
>>
>> On my built-up GR, the top of the seat tube is 3/4" lower than the top of
>> the head tube.  Plus the steerer is cut pretty long so you need a 3/4"
>> stack of spacers between the top of the headset bearing race and the top
>> nut.  It's a threaded steerer, so there's no "uncut steerer" involved.  I
>> put this in front of a door in my basement that conveniently has a
>> horizontal molding that provides a level that's approximately at the top of
>> the head tube.
>>
>> I'm slightly embarassed to say that I just moved all the parts directly
>> over from my current primary randonneuring bike without even cleaning them
>> up.  Partly that's just because I wanted to get this built up faster so I
>> can start riding it, but I also consider the slight amount of dirt that
>> doesn't affect function to be a form of beausage--it's a reflection of the
>> thousands of miles that my '84 Trek 610 was ridden.  Maybe I'll give all
>> the parts a good wash some time and take snazzier photos.
>>
>> I went on a ride on the GR last night and it felt great.  The frame
>> disappeared under me and the miles melted away.  Well, to be more precise,
>> I rode down the block and back, it was freezing cold out and I didn't
>> bother to put on gloves, jacket, or even socks.  But the frame did feel
>> nice :-)
>>
>> To add a bit of Riv content to this message:  the GR is parked next to my
>> orange Ram.
>>
>> Nick
>>
>>
>> On Tuesday, November 12, 2013 5:13:58 PM UTC-5, Garth wrote:
>>>
>>>
>>> Steve ....  I say this with light heart .... You're missing the point I
>>> made. It's not that it does not "have" a liberal HT extension. The point I
>>> made was that relative to the ST top  , the frame appears to have *less
>>> *ST-HT differential height , making it's no better, if not worse than a
>>> "classic" level TT frame with no HT extension.  Most bike are a "plus" in
>>> this differential , meaning the top of the HT is higher than the top of the
>>> ST.  Even a "classic" road frame has some "plus".  This appears to have
>>> "minus", and that I do find strikingly odd. Hence, the "track bike"
>>> reference, where this "may" be a good quality.
>>>
>>>
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