I've never known the weight of any of my bikes, and I've ridden lots of 
bikes throughout my life.    I mean, I've known published weights for 
frames I've owned, but have never weighed my bike when built up. 

Obviously everybody has different things they look for in a bicycle, and 
different uses in mind.   For me the most important thing is how the bike 
handles for the riding I like to do-  not pedal-wise handling, or planing 
so to speak, or acceleration-   but gliding, carving, pulling it over 
obstacles, etc.   For example, I care how nimble it is when unloaded, or if 
can I bunnyhop easily (chainstay length and BB height affect this greatly) 
and whether the bike is still relatively stable when loaded (it seems 
chainstay length and BB height affect this too, though TT length and so on 
also come into play more here).     That alone is a delicate balance.    
For me, most Rivendells achieve that balance-   in addition to their many 
other features-  nicely, as compared to, say, a cross or mountain bike with 
what I consider very short chainstays and super-high BB, or a Thorn Nomad, 
with three-foot chainstays for expedition touring.    I don't want a super 
thin-walled TT because I don't race, don't care about going fast compared 
to anyone else (on the road) and furthermore, I WILL dent the TT, if it is 
made of .7/.4/.7 tubing, in the course of locking the bike to a pole with 
other bikes, or something like that.     I care about a reasonable degree 
of toughness and service.    I try to use quality steel chainrings and 
long-wearing tires for that reason.   I believe without a doubt that 
ultra-thin walled TT tubing and/or lightness is great for racing and road 
performance, keeping up with a pack, etc. but I don't care about those 
types of riding.

Right now I'm riding studded nokian tires because it is winter in New 
England (though winters are tame these days-  resembling more an extension 
of late autumn straight to early spring).   I always notice quite a 
sluggish feeling *on the road* after putting the tires on in late December, 
but honestly I get used to it in about two rides to work and then forget 
about it.       In March, going back to Marathon tires, the bike feels fast 
on the road even though I'm sure some people would say Marathons feel like 
they're filled with sand.    Off road, on trails, I notice no difference 
whatsoever, because speed is on a whole different scale in that case, and 
any drag from tread or stout casing is overwhelmed by the unevenness of the 
root-laden, rocky, or muddy ground.


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