On Tuesday, January 15, 2013 9:18:52 AM UTC-8, Steve Palincsar wrote:
>
> On Tue, 2013-01-15 at 09:08 -0800, Jan Heine wrote: 
> > 
> > That explains why in our experience, performance correlates only very 
> > weakly with weight, but very strongly with optimized frame flex 
> > characteristics. 
>
> For a mind-blowing example of the above,  be sure to read the road test 
> of the titanium road bikes in the current issue of BQ.  (I'm going to 
> leave the big reveal to Jan, if he wants to pick up on the cue...) 
>
> > (Of course, weight and optimized frame flex characteristics are 
> > correlated on most bikes, hence lightweight bikes often perform better 
> > than heavier ones.) 
>
> But http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=i0vEgU88IQQ 
>
>
> The builder of the bike that was consistently ridden faster in the test, 
> states that the reason being it is "stiffer in the bottom bracket area".  I 
> would have expected the other bike to be the faster based upon previous 
> tests that Jan has done for BQ.  The builder goes on to point out that his 
> bike is the less comfortable of the two bikes being compared, also because 
> of this stiffness. The results just seem counter to the concept of 
> "planing". I prefer to ride a more flexible frame, but not for the reason 
> of pace.   Maybe Jan would like to expand more on this?  
>

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