Also a quick measure can be found here... 
http://bikecalculator.com

Enjoy

On Tuesday, January 15, 2013 11:15:47 AM UTC-6, Jan Heine wrote:
>
> On Monday, January 14, 2013 2:58:13 PM UTC-5, Skenry wrote:
>>
>>  
>>> The only real way to compair weights is to have a frame built up with 
>>> normal duty "heavy" Riv-ish parts and then build it again with lighter 
>>> "racing" parts.  Then you'd be able to notice a weight diffence.
>>> Scott
>>>
>>
> You don't need to go through that much effort. You can just add a water 
> bottle full of gravel to the lightweight bike. Compare it against a known 
> rider on a known bike, before and after. We've done that multiple times in 
> *Bicycle Quarterly's* bike tests, and the 4 pounds of gravel didn't make 
> any noticeable difference in the performance of the bike.
>
> When we first tested a bike made from "superlight" tubing, we were 
> surprised how much better than my Alex Singer it climbed. Switching bikes 
> back and forth, Mark and I found that whoever rode the "superlight" bike 
> was faster. To make sure it wasn't the weight difference (one was a racing 
> bike, the other a randonneur bike), we moved all the water bottles, food, 
> etc. to the "superlight" bike, stuffing the rider's jersey pockets until 
> the "superlight" bike was heavier than the Singer. The performance 
> difference remained. Whoever rode the heavy "superlight" bike still was 
> faster, and we switched back and forth multiple times.
>
> The test method of switching bikes between well-matched riders is useful, 
> because it accounts for environmental conditions (both ride side by side, 
> so have the same wind, temperature, etc.) and fatigue (both riders fatigue 
> at the same rate). This makes it easier to compare bikes than repeat runs 
> up a hill, where it's obvious that Run 10 will be slower than Run 2, 
> because the rider is getting tired.
>
> Jan Heine
> Editor
> Bicycle Quarterly
>
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>  
>

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