On Sat, 2012-12-08 at 13:02 -0800, charlie wrote: > Yea Marc's bike is typical.....weight wise. Not sure what my double > top tube Sam weighs probably 8 ounces more though. The Sam in my > opinion isn't 'overbuilt' or 'heavy'. I think the whole weight thing > is a little over emphasized and something Grant has some strong > opinions about.
Someone who says Riv's are "overbuilt" isn't necessarily talking about their weight. They could very well be talking about their stiffness. I certainly am when I say that -- and I do indeed say that. > Even BQ magazine didn't find much difference in a Ti bike weighing 17 > pounds and a steel one weighing 26 pounds (as far as performance). > Your body position, fit and power output have more to do with your > ultimate performance. I fail to see how less than five pounds will > make a significant difference. Frame stiffness, performance and feel > depend on rider weight and power. You can't put a 200+ pounder on a > light tube bike and not expect it to feel like a wet noodle That's a common belief, but it's just not so. I have several bikes with standard diameter tubing that's fairly light gauge: 8/5/8 throughout for two, and one that's 7/5/7 with an 8/5/8 downtube, and I'm definitely 200 + pounds. These bikes feel "sprightly," and "springy" and they're all lots of fun to ride. None feel "like a wet noodle." The two 8/5/8 bikes are "frame upgrades" -- components switched over from a Rambouilet and a Saluki -- so I have a direct comparison of the frame alone. Although the Rivs were nice bikes, I much prefer the less stiff replacements. And what on earth are they thinking when they add a second top tube? That's got to add to the already excessive stiffness... -- You received this message because you are subscribed to the Google Groups "RBW Owners Bunch" group. To post to this group, send email to rbw-owners-bunch@googlegroups.com. To unsubscribe from this group, send email to rbw-owners-bunch+unsubscr...@googlegroups.com. For more options, visit this group at http://groups.google.com/group/rbw-owners-bunch?hl=en.
