How I failed to think to move the thingy forward of the triangle is beyond 
me. Now that I see the pic, it seems the obvious and most simple solution. 
Thanks!

I briefly (months ago when I got the panniers) contemplated cutting the 
triangle off. Glad I didn't do it. 

I assume stability is fine with the narrower grab? 


 

On Wednesday, October 10, 2012 4:35:09 PM UTC-7, Kelly wrote:
>
> Andy,
>
> Try it this way.  May save some on and off headaches. 
>
> http://www.flickr.com/photos/tksleeper/8075416632/in/photostream
>
> Kelly
>
>
> On Wednesday, October 10, 2012 3:12:34 PM UTC-5, Andy Smitty Schmidt wrote:
>>
>> With the rack off and the pannier empty, I got it to work. Tight fit that 
>> involved some monkeying to get it on but it's a solid attachment. Thanks 
>> for the counter experience. 
>>
>> I took a few pics in case anyone's wondering what the issue was... 
>> http://www.flickr.com/photos/15966859@N07/8074911181/
>>
>> --Andy
>>
>>
>> On Wednesday, October 10, 2012 12:46:06 PM UTC-7, Kelly wrote:
>>>
>>> If photos will help let me know and I'll take some of the back of the 
>>> pannier that fits, the rack and them together. 
>>>
>>> Kelly
>>>
>>> On Wednesday, October 10, 2012 2:35:11 PM UTC-5, Andy Smitty Schmidt 
>>> wrote:
>>>>
>>>> I fiddled with them and was never able to get them to fit. 
>>>>
>>>> I wonder if our racks or panniers are somehow different? 
>>>>
>>>> The front hook/clamp fits fine in the triangle but on the rear the 
>>>> cross piece is smack in the middle of the triangle. Even when I had the 
>>>> Arkel hooks loose and could micro-adjust as I installed it, something was 
>>>> always in the way that prevented the hook/clamp from engaging and the 
>>>> pannier from hanging down along the rack. I even tried getting the clamp 
>>>> to 
>>>> engage holding the pannier out (like a wing) then lowering the bag into 
>>>> place, but I couldn't position the clamp mechanism to fit in the triangle. 
>>>>
>>>> Hearing that someone has made it work... I'll try it again this 
>>>> afternoon and see if I can get it to go.
>>>>
>>>> --Andy  
>>>>
>>>> On Tuesday, October 9, 2012 6:29:47 PM UTC-7, Kelly wrote:
>>>>>
>>>>> Andy
>>>>>
>>>>> They are adjustable.  I found my artel attaching system fit right in 
>>>>> the center of the triangle.  One set once its no muss no fuss.   I'm 
>>>>> talking about the large rear Rivendell rack with the trusses.  Same thing 
>>>>> you are noting?
>>>>>
>>>>> Kelly
>>>>>
>>>>>

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