Andy,

Try it this way.  May save some on and off headaches. 

http://www.flickr.com/photos/tksleeper/8075416632/in/photostream

Kelly


On Wednesday, October 10, 2012 3:12:34 PM UTC-5, Andy Smitty Schmidt wrote:
>
> With the rack off and the pannier empty, I got it to work. Tight fit that 
> involved some monkeying to get it on but it's a solid attachment. Thanks 
> for the counter experience. 
>
> I took a few pics in case anyone's wondering what the issue was... 
> http://www.flickr.com/photos/15966859@N07/8074911181/
>
> --Andy
>
>
> On Wednesday, October 10, 2012 12:46:06 PM UTC-7, Kelly wrote:
>>
>> If photos will help let me know and I'll take some of the back of the 
>> pannier that fits, the rack and them together. 
>>
>> Kelly
>>
>> On Wednesday, October 10, 2012 2:35:11 PM UTC-5, Andy Smitty Schmidt 
>> wrote:
>>>
>>> I fiddled with them and was never able to get them to fit. 
>>>
>>> I wonder if our racks or panniers are somehow different? 
>>>
>>> The front hook/clamp fits fine in the triangle but on the rear the cross 
>>> piece is smack in the middle of the triangle. Even when I had the Arkel 
>>> hooks loose and could micro-adjust as I installed it, something was always 
>>> in the way that prevented the hook/clamp from engaging and the pannier from 
>>> hanging down along the rack. I even tried getting the clamp to engage 
>>> holding the pannier out (like a wing) then lowering the bag into place, but 
>>> I couldn't position the clamp mechanism to fit in the triangle. 
>>>
>>> Hearing that someone has made it work... I'll try it again this 
>>> afternoon and see if I can get it to go.
>>>
>>> --Andy  
>>>
>>> On Tuesday, October 9, 2012 6:29:47 PM UTC-7, Kelly wrote:
>>>>
>>>> Andy
>>>>
>>>> They are adjustable.  I found my artel attaching system fit right in 
>>>> the center of the triangle.  One set once its no muss no fuss.   I'm 
>>>> talking about the large rear Rivendell rack with the trusses.  Same thing 
>>>> you are noting?
>>>>
>>>> Kelly
>>>>
>>>>

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