I have had good luck getting Quasi-Moto tires to seat evenly on Synergies by pumping em up much harder than I would ride em and then bouncing em on the patio.
On Aug 10, 8:43 am, William <tapebu...@gmail.com> wrote: > I just built a set of 650B A23s a few months ago. I built three sets of > Synergies over the last few years. I was expecting to have increased > friction at the spoke to rim interface, because that's just what happens > with non-eyeleted rims. I was very pleasantly surprised at how little > friction there was. I really could tell the difference at all. > > Regarding tire mounting, I agree that Synergies are far easier. I am used > to mounting and removing 650B tires from Synergy rims with no levers. In > the 650B community, this is often considered a shortcoming, because it is > quite common to have a very difficult time seating a wide 650B tire on a > synergy rim. This has been attributed to the very deep well of the Synergy > rim. Workarounds include using a lot more rim tape, lucking out, or just > accepting a lumpy tire. Some folklore has suggested that Velocity has had > both undersized and oversized runs of these 650B rims. > > The A23 has a far shallower well at the bead and a deeper channel down the > middle. To mount tires with your hands, you really have to get the bead > down in that middle channel. The huge upside is that it is virtually > impossible for the tire NOT to run true. I set up my A23 650B wheelset > tubeless, so I used the very thin Stan's tape, and I agree the tire went on > far tighter than on Synergy's. Still no problem with my bare hands. I > considered that a very good thing. > > None of the above comments have anything to do with 700C Velocity rims. > I've never built a wheelset or ridden on Velocity 700c rims of any model. > In 650B, I think the A23 is a really great alternative to the Synergy, but > I think they are both nice rims. > > > > > > > > On Thursday, August 9, 2012 9:09:20 PM UTC-7, Benz, Sunnyvale, CA wrote: > > > Hi Brian, > > > I've built up a set and a half of A23s and a couple of sets of Synergies. > > Both rim types are pretty straightforward to build and required similar > > amounts of attention to achieve the radial/lateral trueness. I build more > > for spoke tension evenness than rad/lat trueness and neither rims gave me > > problems other than the typical slight hop at the joint. > > > I prefer the Synergies because the available OC version reduces left/right > > spoke tension discrepancy thereby resulting in stronger rear wheels. > > Truthfully, I only ever had a rear wheel fail once in my entire cycling > > lifetime (>30 years), so this may be a technical advantage and not a > > practical one. The Synergies were also a tad easier to build due to the > > reduced turning friction from having eyelets (even if the spoke/nipple and > > nipple/spoke-bed interfaces were oiled). Finally, and this is very > > important for me, tires are significantly easier to mount on the Synergies > > than on the A23s, often not requiring any tire levers at all for the > > Synergies (e.g., for both the GB Cypres and JB Greens, with Veloplugs). > > > On Thursday, August 9, 2012 5:37:58 PM UTC-7, stonehog wrote: > > >> Has anyone had a chance to build a wheel with the Velocity A23 rims vs. a > >> Synergy rim? I'm planning a front wheel SON wheel, and have been using > >> Synergy rims to this point. This will be for my Hilsen and will generally > >> be pulling rando/road duty with Cypres or Jack Brown Greens. > > >> Brian > >> Seattle, WA -- You received this message because you are subscribed to the Google Groups "RBW Owners Bunch" group. To post to this group, send email to rbw-owners-bunch@googlegroups.com. To unsubscribe from this group, send email to rbw-owners-bunch+unsubscr...@googlegroups.com. For more options, visit this group at http://groups.google.com/group/rbw-owners-bunch?hl=en.
