Worth emphasizing a huge factor is the clearances. My Trek 520 could
(barely) take 32's and then had to do a split fender workaround. Now
I'm gonna rock fat & happy 40's with ultranormal fendering on the
Sam.

On Feb 8, 1:57 am, Mike S <mikeshalj...@gmail.com> wrote:
> I was in a similar scenario two years ago, though I was way too broke
> to get the Sam Hillborne frame of my dreams and chose to parlay my
> bike budget into a 1986 Trek 520 frame. The frame was traded with a
> friend for a (nice, but too small) 80's Raleigh Grand Prix I bought
> for $150 on Ebay, and it was a Craigslist find my buddy scored for
> free, because I was desperate for the 64cm size.
>
> I couldn't live with the battered paint on it and went for a gorgeous
> $300 powdercoat in orange. Got all of the corrosion off and made it
> look factory fresh, a really handsome restore. All told, I spent $350
> (powdercoat + headset) of cash on the frame and attached all manner of
> fancy Rivvish parts to it. Nitto cockpit, lugged seatpost to make the
> too short top tube work, Tektro long-reach brakes, nice wheelset,
> hell, even a split fender setup to work with the too-tight clearances.
> Basically, I threw good money (nice parts) after bad (powdercoating an
> anonymous decades old frame) and rode it about 2000 miles.
>
> Then, in November, I began to notice the fork wobbling a bit for about
> a week. The problem gradually got worse until I eventually realized
> there was a crack running all around the headtube lug. The vintage
> Trek that I had planned to get 20,000 miles of sadly barely got warmed
> up, and now it will just be a flamboyant piece of garden art or some
> such. I think the take-home message from this verbosity has already
> been said in the thread: don't do this sort of thing unless you are
> the original owner because god knows what that frame has been
> through.
>
> The story does have a happy ending, as the Hillborne of my dreams is
> arriving at my LBS tomorrow and it's going to be united with all that
> bike finery I invested in. At long last I will have a frame that truly
> fits my crazy 96 PBH and will confidently truck through wherever I go
> with whatever I carry for hopefully 100,000 miles or so. Can't wait!
>
> TL;DR: Threw $350 at an unknown frame, it broke after not much
> mileage. Mourned it's loss and got funds together for a Sam, gonna be
> riding happy a long time to come.
>
> On Feb 7, 9:05 am, trek610 <tspin...@gmail.com> wrote:
>
>
>
>
>
>
>
> > Hi all,
>
> > I am at a cross roads and need some help deciding on how best to spend my
> > money...
>
> > I am looking to get a nice all around bike for commuting, perhaps a century
> > or two, 2 day bike overnight credit card, and light trail (crushed
> > limestone/dirt) type riding. In the summer I wind up with 50 - 150 miles
> > per week.   I am currently using a Surly LHT for this type of riding, and
> > really like it, but am longing for something a bit more .....sprightly.
> >  Here is a picture of my current LHT to give you an idea of how I would
> > like to setup this new ride.
>
> > <http://i18.photobucket.com/albums/b110/e_merlin/LHT%202010/IMG_0016.jpg>
>
> > I am not the tallest guy and ride a 50 - 53cm frame depending on the setup.
> >  I would outfit his new bike in a similar fashion with fenders, racks,
> > rando bag etc...
>
> > Here is my problem.  I found a 531cs Trek 610 from 1984 that has (IMHO)
> > nice geometry for my needs.  Some specs - 430mm chain-stay, 52mm rake, 72mm
> > bottom bracket drop, and i think 72 for so seat and head tube angles.  Trek
> > does not publish the geometry for anything but 22.5" frames that year...
>
> > Trek Upgrade Path
>
> >    1. 700C or 650B wheel conversion - bigger tire, better ride, more fender
> >    clearance (I already have a nice set of velocity 700c wheels for this
> >    project....)
> >    2. complete powder coat
> >    3. Canti brake studs added
> >    4. brazeons for various items
> >    5. cold set the rear end
> >    6. etc...
>
> > I guess in the end this will require many new parts, some of which I have,
> > but will be a considerable investment nonetheless.
>
> > Now here comes the San Marcos....  It seems to be a nice solution as well
> > and may very well similar in price to the trek by the time I am done with
> > the frame parts.  The San Marcos may be a bit more, but may be a better
> > choice in the long run.  The San Marcos seems to have perfect geometry for
> > my kind of riding...
>
> > What would you do if you were me?  What bike will better serve me in the
> > long run.  I have to admit, since I live in Madison WI the Trek has some
> > sentimental value to me.  The San Marcos lugs look really nice however!  I
> > am torn with which direction to go, and since this is a big outlay of cash
> > for me I am looking for some advice before going one way or the other...
>
> > Thanks in a advance to any/all help.
>
> > Thanks

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