I was in a similar scenario two years ago, though I was way too broke
to get the Sam Hillborne frame of my dreams and chose to parlay my
bike budget into a 1986 Trek 520 frame. The frame was traded with a
friend for a (nice, but too small) 80's Raleigh Grand Prix I bought
for $150 on Ebay, and it was a Craigslist find my buddy scored for
free, because I was desperate for the 64cm size.

I couldn't live with the battered paint on it and went for a gorgeous
$300 powdercoat in orange. Got all of the corrosion off and made it
look factory fresh, a really handsome restore. All told, I spent $350
(powdercoat + headset) of cash on the frame and attached all manner of
fancy Rivvish parts to it. Nitto cockpit, lugged seatpost to make the
too short top tube work, Tektro long-reach brakes, nice wheelset,
hell, even a split fender setup to work with the too-tight clearances.
Basically, I threw good money (nice parts) after bad (powdercoating an
anonymous decades old frame) and rode it about 2000 miles.

Then, in November, I began to notice the fork wobbling a bit for about
a week. The problem gradually got worse until I eventually realized
there was a crack running all around the headtube lug. The vintage
Trek that I had planned to get 20,000 miles of sadly barely got warmed
up, and now it will just be a flamboyant piece of garden art or some
such. I think the take-home message from this verbosity has already
been said in the thread: don't do this sort of thing unless you are
the original owner because god knows what that frame has been
through.

The story does have a happy ending, as the Hillborne of my dreams is
arriving at my LBS tomorrow and it's going to be united with all that
bike finery I invested in. At long last I will have a frame that truly
fits my crazy 96 PBH and will confidently truck through wherever I go
with whatever I carry for hopefully 100,000 miles or so. Can't wait!

TL;DR: Threw $350 at an unknown frame, it broke after not much
mileage. Mourned it's loss and got funds together for a Sam, gonna be
riding happy a long time to come.

On Feb 7, 9:05 am, trek610 <tspin...@gmail.com> wrote:
> Hi all,
>
> I am at a cross roads and need some help deciding on how best to spend my
> money...
>
> I am looking to get a nice all around bike for commuting, perhaps a century
> or two, 2 day bike overnight credit card, and light trail (crushed
> limestone/dirt) type riding. In the summer I wind up with 50 - 150 miles
> per week.   I am currently using a Surly LHT for this type of riding, and
> really like it, but am longing for something a bit more .....sprightly.
>  Here is a picture of my current LHT to give you an idea of how I would
> like to setup this new ride.
>
> <http://i18.photobucket.com/albums/b110/e_merlin/LHT%202010/IMG_0016.jpg>
>
> I am not the tallest guy and ride a 50 - 53cm frame depending on the setup.
>  I would outfit his new bike in a similar fashion with fenders, racks,
> rando bag etc...
>
> Here is my problem.  I found a 531cs Trek 610 from 1984 that has (IMHO)
> nice geometry for my needs.  Some specs - 430mm chain-stay, 52mm rake, 72mm
> bottom bracket drop, and i think 72 for so seat and head tube angles.  Trek
> does not publish the geometry for anything but 22.5" frames that year...
>
> Trek Upgrade Path
>
>    1. 700C or 650B wheel conversion - bigger tire, better ride, more fender
>    clearance (I already have a nice set of velocity 700c wheels for this
>    project....)
>    2. complete powder coat
>    3. Canti brake studs added
>    4. brazeons for various items
>    5. cold set the rear end
>    6. etc...
>
> I guess in the end this will require many new parts, some of which I have,
> but will be a considerable investment nonetheless.
>
> Now here comes the San Marcos....  It seems to be a nice solution as well
> and may very well similar in price to the trek by the time I am done with
> the frame parts.  The San Marcos may be a bit more, but may be a better
> choice in the long run.  The San Marcos seems to have perfect geometry for
> my kind of riding...
>
> What would you do if you were me?  What bike will better serve me in the
> long run.  I have to admit, since I live in Madison WI the Trek has some
> sentimental value to me.  The San Marcos lugs look really nice however!  I
> am torn with which direction to go, and since this is a big outlay of cash
> for me I am looking for some advice before going one way or the other...
>
> Thanks in a advance to any/all help.
>
> Thanks

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