I don't want to prolong this somewhat OT debate beyond the limits of
reason or good taste, but I have to say that the idea that carbs as
such are bad for you and unnatural to human beings simply doesn't
correspond with millennia of human history. Again, it wasn't the
Chinese, Filipinos, Africans, Indians, Asian and American, Irish
peasants and New Guineans, Peruvian highlanders, residents of coral
atolls and Italian pasta eaters, carbo eaters all, who were fat and
prone to diabetes. And it was Europeans who ate the most meat and
cheese and dairy, leaving out Inuit and Sioux and perhaps Masai (who
lived largely off blood and milk, plus millet traded for with other
tribes) and other small groups who ate mostly meat or dairy or fish.

FWIW, corn -- growing, eating -- is integral to Hopi spiritual life

I don't say that Taube is all wrong or that one might not benefit from
his dietary recommendations, but to make carbs the culprit for the
modern West's ill health is clearly in contradiction with history and
experience. As for examining human experience, he seems to have rather
strangely left out a good part of it in his researches.

Patrick "trim without trying at 170 and a long torso'd (Asian build)
5'10" from loading on beer, bread, pasta -- but no processed foods!"
Moore


On Sat, Aug 13, 2011 at 10:47 AM, David Faller <dfal...@charter.net> wrote:


>
> My point is that Taubes' observations of the hundreds of studies (world
> wide) of human metabolism point to the same general conclusion:  Humans are
> animals, and proteins are far and away the dominant nutrients required by
> our bodies.  We have, physiologically, almost no use for carbohydrates, and
> our bodies' insulin system bears that out.  Yes, we can tolerate them and
> even use them effectively, but humans have succumbed to living off of them
> and are doing more so as time goes by.  The parallel with the global
> increase in obesity and most major diseases is stunningly obvious, yet we do
> everything in our power to deny it.

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