Steve. Maybe you are correct about the livelier feel of lighter gauge
tubing. But will a lighter frame absorb rode shock like the heavier
gauge? Part of the reason I like my bikes is that when you do get them
up to speed they feel extremely stable. I didn't feel that way on the
Ramboullet that I owned briefly. The lighter gauge would definetly
help in climbing and sprints if you race.

On Jul 22, 12:51 pm, Steve Palincsar <palin...@his.com> wrote:
> On Fri, 2011-07-22 at 09:42 -0700, hobie wrote:
> >  I own a 58cm 650b Saluki Toyo and a 52cm Waterford Bombadil and can't
> > imagine a custom Riv is going to ride any better.
>
> I haven't paid much attention to the range of choices available with Riv
> customs.  Perhaps you know: if you wanted either ultra-light OS, or
> light gauge standard tubing, could you get it?  If so, then yes, a
> custom Riv /could/ possibly have a substantially livelier ride than any
> of the standard bikes.   I think most of the Toyo frames had OS 8/5/8 or
> thicker as the tubing, but OS comes as thin as 5/3/5, and you would
> surely notice that difference.

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