On Fri, 2011-07-22 at 09:42 -0700, hobie wrote:
>  I own a 58cm 650b Saluki Toyo and a 52cm Waterford Bombadil and can't
> imagine a custom Riv is going to ride any better.

I haven't paid much attention to the range of choices available with Riv
customs.  Perhaps you know: if you wanted either ultra-light OS, or
light gauge standard tubing, could you get it?  If so, then yes, a
custom Riv /could/ possibly have a substantially livelier ride than any
of the standard bikes.   I think most of the Toyo frames had OS 8/5/8 or
thicker as the tubing, but OS comes as thin as 5/3/5, and you would
surely notice that difference.



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