Deal breaker. I'm 180-190 and have one of the original 56 cm canti Sams (nome de guerre: "Ramble 'Rounder). Wonderful and plush commuter, but on the heavy and sluggish side for lightly laden rides. I don't see how adding another tube can do anything but further deaden the ride. I've really pushed this bicycle as an enthusiast's bike that can do it all; the commute, the lightly loaded tour or overnighter, the charity ride, the century, the sporty ride with friends (provided you are more fit than they are). Most of my cycling friends, who are not ignorant about bicycling or slavishly race-oriented in their tastes, have been skeptical but willing to consider the benefits of an all 'rounder road bike and they appreciate the lean but strong lines of my Sam. I don't think anyone, however, is going to be convinced that the performance of what was heretofore a stout sport-tourer will be improved by a second top tube. If they need a beefier bike they've got plenty of others to consider that don't have the awkward second tube. The Atlantis comes to mind, the LHT, or the Co-Motion Americano or Nor'- Wester. If they want a livelier and sportier bike the second-tube will confirm that the Sam is not for them. The well-heeled may buy up to the A.H.H. (the single-tubed Sam's upscale analogue), but most will go elsewhere and I'm afraid I'd have to agree with that choice.
I think Rivendell is putting out a five-legged chair here. What comes next? A rickshaw? A sidecar for the Chesapeake Bay retriever? This will kill the Sam. D.G. On Jun 5, 12:56 pm, Jay <robin...@gmail.com> wrote: > Does this make any sense in a 56 cm Sam? Should it be a deal breaker? > I almost ordered one the other day until I found out all the new one's > have the "undertube". > What does is collective wisdom of this group? > > BTW I weigh 165 lbs want the bike for commuting and the occasional > tour. > > Jay -- You received this message because you are subscribed to the Google Groups "RBW Owners Bunch" group. To post to this group, send email to rbw-owners-bunch@googlegroups.com. To unsubscribe from this group, send email to rbw-owners-bunch+unsubscr...@googlegroups.com. For more options, visit this group at http://groups.google.com/group/rbw-owners-bunch?hl=en.