Deal breaker.

I'm 180-190 and have one of the original 56 cm canti Sams (nome de
guerre: "Ramble 'Rounder).  Wonderful and plush commuter, but on the
heavy and sluggish side for lightly laden rides.  I don't see how
adding another tube can do anything but further deaden the ride.  I've
really pushed this bicycle as an enthusiast's bike that can do it all;
the commute, the lightly loaded tour or overnighter, the charity ride,
the century, the sporty ride with friends (provided you are more fit
than they are).   Most of my cycling friends, who are not ignorant
about bicycling or slavishly race-oriented in their tastes, have been
skeptical but willing to consider the benefits of an all 'rounder road
bike and they appreciate the lean but strong lines of my Sam.  I don't
think anyone, however, is going to be convinced that the performance
of what was heretofore a stout sport-tourer will be improved by a
second top tube.  If they need a beefier bike they've got plenty of
others to consider that don't have the awkward second tube.  The
Atlantis comes to mind, the LHT, or the Co-Motion Americano or Nor'-
Wester.  If they want a livelier and sportier bike the second-tube
will confirm that the Sam is not for them.  The well-heeled may buy up
to the A.H.H. (the single-tubed Sam's upscale analogue), but most will
go elsewhere and I'm afraid I'd have to agree with that choice.

I think Rivendell is putting out a five-legged chair here.  What comes
next?  A rickshaw?  A sidecar for the Chesapeake Bay retriever?  This
will kill the Sam.

D.G.

On Jun 5, 12:56 pm, Jay <robin...@gmail.com> wrote:
> Does this make any sense in a 56 cm Sam? Should it be a deal breaker?
> I almost ordered one the other day until I found out all the new one's
> have the "undertube".
> What does is collective wisdom of this group?
>
> BTW I weigh 165 lbs want the bike for commuting and the occasional
> tour.
>
> Jay

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