Patrick, I believe we can all identify with your situation. Accommodating excess power is a constant struggle.
Yours, Thomas Lynn Skean :) On Jun 7, 7:59 am, PATRICK MOORE <bertin...@gmail.com> wrote: > I can see a second top tube for loaded touring -- or loads, simply. > The 56 single tubed SH I owned rode well unladen but was a bit flexy > under load. Still, I'd rather have flex under load than excessive > stiffness unladen. 170. > > Odd, but my new SH replacement Herse was too stiff for its two > previous owners but suits me just fine. Probably because I am a more > powerful rider. > > Patrick "that last statement was a huge joke" Moore, since the two > previous owners are regular brevet riders. > > > > > > On Tue, Jun 7, 2011 at 6:20 AM, Greg <gndogg...@gmail.com> wrote: > > I own a 60cm single top tube Sam, '09. Maybe because my main two rides > > for the last 20 years have been 59cm Ribby's, an RB-1 go-fast and an > > RB-T commuter/light tourer, The flex of the single top tube Sam feels > > perfect to me under my 226 lbs. for day riding on paved or gravel > > roads and overnight inn to inn trips. I start to notice a bit more > > flex, not yet objectionable, with a large saddlebag, med. basket up > > front, camping gear from my ultralight backpacking kit and 4 days > > food. For longer trips with rear panniers instead of the large > > saddlebag and adding a small seat bag the flex is more pronounced and > > I wish I had a stiffer frame. Jay at Rivendell, who is a 200+ pounder, > > started out with a single top tube Sam and latter had a second top > > tube fillet brazed on. He told me the bike still has the same springy- > > ness on day rides yet is stiffer laterally when loaded...which sounds > > just like what I'm looking for when I'm touring on my Sam. I don't > > have any need for a super stiff touring bike since after 11 years of > > experimentation I feel totally confident with my ultralight camp gear > > and would not want a bike that is capable of carrying an elephantine > > fully loaded touring setup. So this winter I'm stripping my Sam and > > sending it off to Rivendell to have an undertube added. In that > > configuration I would have no reservations about riding the Sam and my > > usual tarptent, quilt, torso sized sleep pad, alcohol stove based gear > > kit on a trip of any length given the change Jay related in his bike > > due to it's single to double top tube transformation. > > > -- > > You received this message because you are subscribed to the Google Groups > > "RBW Owners Bunch" group. > > To post to this group, send email to rbw-owners-bunch@googlegroups.com. > > To unsubscribe from this group, send email to > > rbw-owners-bunch+unsubscr...@googlegroups.com. > > For more options, visit this group > > athttp://groups.google.com/group/rbw-owners-bunch?hl=en. > > -- > Patrick Moore > Albuquerque, NM > For professional resumes, contact > Patrick Moore, ACRW > patrickmo...@resumespecialties.com > > A billion stars go spinning through the night > Blazing high above your head; > But in you is the Presence that will be > When all the stars are dead. > (Rilke, Buddha in Glory) -- You received this message because you are subscribed to the Google Groups "RBW Owners Bunch" group. To post to this group, send email to rbw-owners-bunch@googlegroups.com. To unsubscribe from this group, send email to rbw-owners-bunch+unsubscr...@googlegroups.com. For more options, visit this group at http://groups.google.com/group/rbw-owners-bunch?hl=en.
