I can see a second top tube for loaded touring -- or loads, simply. The 56 single tubed SH I owned rode well unladen but was a bit flexy under load. Still, I'd rather have flex under load than excessive stiffness unladen. 170.
Odd, but my new SH replacement Herse was too stiff for its two previous owners but suits me just fine. Probably because I am a more powerful rider. Patrick "that last statement was a huge joke" Moore, since the two previous owners are regular brevet riders. On Tue, Jun 7, 2011 at 6:20 AM, Greg <gndogg...@gmail.com> wrote: > I own a 60cm single top tube Sam, '09. Maybe because my main two rides > for the last 20 years have been 59cm Ribby's, an RB-1 go-fast and an > RB-T commuter/light tourer, The flex of the single top tube Sam feels > perfect to me under my 226 lbs. for day riding on paved or gravel > roads and overnight inn to inn trips. I start to notice a bit more > flex, not yet objectionable, with a large saddlebag, med. basket up > front, camping gear from my ultralight backpacking kit and 4 days > food. For longer trips with rear panniers instead of the large > saddlebag and adding a small seat bag the flex is more pronounced and > I wish I had a stiffer frame. Jay at Rivendell, who is a 200+ pounder, > started out with a single top tube Sam and latter had a second top > tube fillet brazed on. He told me the bike still has the same springy- > ness on day rides yet is stiffer laterally when loaded...which sounds > just like what I'm looking for when I'm touring on my Sam. I don't > have any need for a super stiff touring bike since after 11 years of > experimentation I feel totally confident with my ultralight camp gear > and would not want a bike that is capable of carrying an elephantine > fully loaded touring setup. So this winter I'm stripping my Sam and > sending it off to Rivendell to have an undertube added. In that > configuration I would have no reservations about riding the Sam and my > usual tarptent, quilt, torso sized sleep pad, alcohol stove based gear > kit on a trip of any length given the change Jay related in his bike > due to it's single to double top tube transformation. > > > -- > You received this message because you are subscribed to the Google Groups > "RBW Owners Bunch" group. > To post to this group, send email to rbw-owners-bunch@googlegroups.com. > To unsubscribe from this group, send email to > rbw-owners-bunch+unsubscr...@googlegroups.com. > For more options, visit this group at > http://groups.google.com/group/rbw-owners-bunch?hl=en. > > -- Patrick Moore Albuquerque, NM For professional resumes, contact Patrick Moore, ACRW patrickmo...@resumespecialties.com A billion stars go spinning through the night Blazing high above your head; But in you is the Presence that will be When all the stars are dead. (Rilke, Buddha in Glory) -- You received this message because you are subscribed to the Google Groups "RBW Owners Bunch" group. To post to this group, send email to rbw-owners-bunch@googlegroups.com. To unsubscribe from this group, send email to rbw-owners-bunch+unsubscr...@googlegroups.com. For more options, visit this group at http://groups.google.com/group/rbw-owners-bunch?hl=en.
