i own an all steel Gunnar Sport, a coupled Rambouillet, a custom Rex with all carbon fork. poundage on those goes from a low of about 21.5 up to 24.
for fun, i just built up a carbon Fisher Cronus; all carbon. for the first time i paid attention to lower weight parts; carbon bars, carbon seatpost, and shimano RS 80 1600 gram wheels. with pedals and cages it weighs 17 lbs. that is nearly 5 less than the rest. i am old, sorta plumpish, but i ride quite a bit. i can't quantify the difference, but the lighter bike is a fine fun contrast to the others. you can drink less beer, lose some weight...and until you actually do it, a significantly lighter bike is a ball. not my normal conservative approach. in fact, way out there: https://picasaweb.google.com/107231724174916923201/CronusWheels# On Mar 17, 8:16 pm, PATRICK MOORE <bertin...@gmail.com> wrote: > Oh good, another controversy to jump into. Herewith: > > 1. I imagine that "heavy" is said relative to rider weight, no? If a 17 lb > bike is light for me, it would be simply fragile for a 250 pounder. > > 2. Ditto for the bikes purpose: a fixie gofast has a different standard than > a touring or mountain bike. > > 3. The tolerable limits also have to do with one's preferences for owning > fewer multipurpose or more single purpose bikes. > > Having disposed of that: > > For me, 170: gofast, certainly under 20 lb equipped. Mine is (ahem) 17 3/4 > lb exactly. Nice commuter under 25 lb equipped but not laden. Mine is > probably under 23 lb with rack but no bag. But when you get to errand > beaters and tourer/offroad bikes, who is to say? I'd love a 20 lb ss 29er, > but I'd rather have my multipurpose Fargo, which is porcine at 33 lb, than a > single use, lightweight ss off road bike if I had to choose just one. My > Motobecane is unweighed but, equipped and unladen, I'd guess it is at least > 28 lb despite the nicely light frame thanks to heavy wheels, non-SON20R > dynohub, luggage and so forth. > > I did some windy hills this afternoon, about 17 or 18 miles (no computer! So > I can fudge!) on the gofast and let me tell you, climbing those hills, > especially with SW 21 G 33 winds, is far easier when your bike is 10 lb less > (and of course the wheels are far, far lighter). > > OTOH, the porcine Motobecane and grossly obese Fargo are still fun to ride > -- funner than many a lighter bike I've ridden. I'd choose fun over light > any day. (Still, how can I drop 10 lb from the Fargo.....?) > > > > > > On Thu, Mar 17, 2011 at 6:54 PM, MichaelH <mhech...@gmail.com> wrote: > > OK, now that we have dispensed with helmets, allow me to raise another > > controversial topic. > > > This is not like, when am I too heavy, which is easy.... right now. > > > I have 4 bikes, well 6 really, but we wont go into those details. All > > four of them are around 62 cm and get ridden regularly - a 1988 > > classic stage racing frame, weighing around 22 lbs; a Rambouillet, > > outfitted with White/ Open Pro wheels, a White dbl crank, Honjo > > fenders, a Mark's Rack, and light tires also weighing about 22 lbs.; > > a 1984 Trek (Reynolds 531 standard gauge tubing) with Shimano 9 speed > > cranks and shifters, SKS Fenders, Passella 32 mm T Guards and coming > > in around 25 lbs; and An Ebisu All Purpose, with front and real steel > > racks, steel fenders, MA 40 Rims, triple DaVinci Cranks, and 38 mm > > Avocet Cross tires that weighs in at a hefty 30 lbs. > > > I live in Vermont, which has lots of rolling hills and some > > significant climbs. Do you think the 5 lbs alone, between the Trek > > and Ebisu is enough to effect the performance? What about the 3 lb > > difference between the Rambouillet and the Trek? Or, are the > > perceived differences imaginary? > > > michael > > > -- > > You received this message because you are subscribed to the Google Groups > > "RBW Owners Bunch" group. > > To post to this group, send email to rbw-owners-bunch@googlegroups.com. > > To unsubscribe from this group, send email to > > rbw-owners-bunch+unsubscr...@googlegroups.com. > > For more options, visit this group at > >http://groups.google.com/group/rbw-owners-bunch?hl=en. > > -- > Patrick Moore > Albuquerque, NM > For professional resumes, contact > Patrick Moore, ACRW at patrickmo...@resumespecialties.com- Hide quoted text - > > - Show quoted text - -- You received this message because you are subscribed to the Google Groups "RBW Owners Bunch" group. To post to this group, send email to rbw-owners-bunch@googlegroups.com. To unsubscribe from this group, send email to rbw-owners-bunch+unsubscr...@googlegroups.com. For more options, visit this group at http://groups.google.com/group/rbw-owners-bunch?hl=en.