Oh good, another controversy to jump into. Herewith: 1. I imagine that "heavy" is said relative to rider weight, no? If a 17 lb bike is light for me, it would be simply fragile for a 250 pounder.
2. Ditto for the bikes purpose: a fixie gofast has a different standard than a touring or mountain bike. 3. The tolerable limits also have to do with one's preferences for owning fewer multipurpose or more single purpose bikes. Having disposed of that: For me, 170: gofast, certainly under 20 lb equipped. Mine is (ahem) 17 3/4 lb exactly. Nice commuter under 25 lb equipped but not laden. Mine is probably under 23 lb with rack but no bag. But when you get to errand beaters and tourer/offroad bikes, who is to say? I'd love a 20 lb ss 29er, but I'd rather have my multipurpose Fargo, which is porcine at 33 lb, than a single use, lightweight ss off road bike if I had to choose just one. My Motobecane is unweighed but, equipped and unladen, I'd guess it is at least 28 lb despite the nicely light frame thanks to heavy wheels, non-SON20R dynohub, luggage and so forth. I did some windy hills this afternoon, about 17 or 18 miles (no computer! So I can fudge!) on the gofast and let me tell you, climbing those hills, especially with SW 21 G 33 winds, is far easier when your bike is 10 lb less (and of course the wheels are far, far lighter). OTOH, the porcine Motobecane and grossly obese Fargo are still fun to ride -- funner than many a lighter bike I've ridden. I'd choose fun over light any day. (Still, how can I drop 10 lb from the Fargo.....?) On Thu, Mar 17, 2011 at 6:54 PM, MichaelH <mhech...@gmail.com> wrote: > OK, now that we have dispensed with helmets, allow me to raise another > controversial topic. > > This is not like, when am I too heavy, which is easy.... right now. > > I have 4 bikes, well 6 really, but we wont go into those details. All > four of them are around 62 cm and get ridden regularly - a 1988 > classic stage racing frame, weighing around 22 lbs; a Rambouillet, > outfitted with White/ Open Pro wheels, a White dbl crank, Honjo > fenders, a Mark's Rack, and light tires also weighing about 22 lbs.; > a 1984 Trek (Reynolds 531 standard gauge tubing) with Shimano 9 speed > cranks and shifters, SKS Fenders, Passella 32 mm T Guards and coming > in around 25 lbs; and An Ebisu All Purpose, with front and real steel > racks, steel fenders, MA 40 Rims, triple DaVinci Cranks, and 38 mm > Avocet Cross tires that weighs in at a hefty 30 lbs. > > I live in Vermont, which has lots of rolling hills and some > significant climbs. Do you think the 5 lbs alone, between the Trek > and Ebisu is enough to effect the performance? What about the 3 lb > difference between the Rambouillet and the Trek? Or, are the > perceived differences imaginary? > > michael > > -- > You received this message because you are subscribed to the Google Groups > "RBW Owners Bunch" group. > To post to this group, send email to rbw-owners-bunch@googlegroups.com. > To unsubscribe from this group, send email to > rbw-owners-bunch+unsubscr...@googlegroups.com. > For more options, visit this group at > http://groups.google.com/group/rbw-owners-bunch?hl=en. > > -- Patrick Moore Albuquerque, NM For professional resumes, contact Patrick Moore, ACRW at patrickmo...@resumespecialties.com -- You received this message because you are subscribed to the Google Groups "RBW Owners Bunch" group. To post to this group, send email to rbw-owners-bunch@googlegroups.com. To unsubscribe from this group, send email to rbw-owners-bunch+unsubscr...@googlegroups.com. For more options, visit this group at http://groups.google.com/group/rbw-owners-bunch?hl=en.