+1 for Thomas observations.  I think the BB question has been sorted
out on this forum & somewhere here there's a chart of models and sizes
that may be more accurate than the guidance on the Riv site.  Some
issues seem to have too many combinations to say for sure what works &
what won't.  Isn't trial & error how some of us managed to develop
parts collections?

OTH, Paul's bike is nearly new & really should be working properly
with the build combo Riv installed.  But hey, that's what we're here
for, right?

dougP

On Feb 16, 1:43 pm, Thomas Lynn Skean <thomaslynnsk...@comcast.net>
wrote:
> On Feb 16, 4:35 am, Paul Yeoh <rawfoodcuis...@gmail.com> wrote:
>
>
>
> > Gernot: How interesting.. I just checked my Riv invoice and it lists a
> > 107mm Tange Super BB. Not that I know what that means, but it reads on
> > Riv's site that all Riv bikes should use 113 mm except the Atlantis
> > that uses 107 mm.
> > Whether I really have a 107 or that's just what it says on the receipt
> > - I don't know. How do I find out? And would it matter?
>
> RBW is a great institution, a wonderful collection of people, and has
> inspired this marvelous group.
>
> The RBW web-site, while generally informative, extremely interesting,
> highly recommended and overall very enjoyable reading, is *not* using
> best-of-breed content-maintenance technology or practices. :)
>
> For example... I think the web-site's statement on BB size may
> actually predate the *existence* of all the current RBW frame
> offerings *except* the Atlantis. And I know the Atlantis itself has
> changed a bunch over that time. Now, they *may* have gone to some
> trouble to make sure that every Atlantis variant (and every other
> frame design) complied with that statement on the web-site (I'm being
> silly!). But I wouldn't count on it.
>
> Definitely read the web-site with a grain of "subject to change or
> have changed without notice" when it comes to little tidbits of
> detail, however technical they are or important they might be in a
> given situation. If it really matters, ask, measure, and/or test.
>
> I of course am glad (or at least hope) they don't spend hours or even
> too many minutes worrying about this sort of thing. It means the web-
> site doesn't read like a technical manual. It means the bikes don't
> get held up in as many bureaucratic processes. It means they can have
> longer meaningful conversations on the phone and in e-mail about
> helping customers choose a frame, components, and/or accessories.
>
> Oh, and... just in case you missed it... a custom frameset is now
> $3,500. Not $3,000, as indicated on the "Bicycle Models" page (as of
> this moment, anyway).
>
> RBW, don't change a thing. Unless the change'll keep you from getting
> sued, fined, or imprisoned!
>
> Yours,
> Thomas Lynn Skean

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