Holy rack mounts, Batman! Just back from my wanderings & of course can't resist a thread with "Atlantis" in the subject line (really wish I'd had mine with me but that's another story). IIRC, GP specs the bike and the vendor builds it to spec. A brazed joint can only be so good and both Waterford and Toyo have proven they pass the test. Therefore, there should be no functional difference between the two builders, and a frame from either should perform equally well. Riv is pretty careful about the quality of their vendors so spend your energy on which Riv meets your needs and don't stress who built it. If in doubt, just get an Atlantis.
dougP On Jan 26, 5:08 pm, jose <jose.cor...@gmail.com> wrote: > It comes down to your aesthetic sense. If you are not that much into > the details of how things look, then it doesn't matter because quality- > wise they are identical. > > But if you do care about the details, then I think you'd have to look > at the specific bike to determine what you like more. > > Totally subjective. > > I do remember a Grant post mentioning he really liked some of the > details on the last run of Toyo Atlantis. Here it is: > > http://www.rivbike.com/blogs/knothole_post/196 > > I have both a 2006 and one of these last-run 2010 Atlantii. I like > both (a lot), but I overall I prefer the look of the 2006. For > example, I like the curvey lugs of the 2006 more. Many people have > said they prefer the newer, pointy lugs. > > Tomato, jitomate. > > On Jan 26, 3:52 pm, Bruce <fullylug...@yahoo.com> wrote: > > > > > Current Atlantis production is Waterford. Up until last year (I think), they > > came from Toyo. Toyo was the only source for Rambouillet, Saluki and > > Romulus/Redwood. AHH was blended as you suggest, and is now all Waterford. I > > think if you get them to take an order for a Legolas, it would come from > > Waterford as well. The website currently shows Bombadil, Rodeo, Atlantis, > > and > > Hilsen as US made (Waterford). Hunqapillar, Gomez, Foy, Amos, Simpleone as > > Taiwan made (Maxway) > > > ________________________________ > > From: Ryan <ryter...@mts.net> > > To: RBW Owners Bunch <rbw-owners-bunch@googlegroups.com> > > Sent: Wed, January 26, 2011 12:19:28 PM > > Subject: [RBW] Re: Toyo versus Waterford Atlantis > > > As far as I know, Atlantises (Atlanti?) were only Toyo-built. But I'm > > sure that someone will correct me if I'm wrong. > > > My impression is that later models...I'm thinking of the AHH in > > particular ...were either Toyo or Waterford-built. And as others on > > this thread have noted, the Sams are either built by Waterford or in > > Taiwan under the supervision of Toyo > > > That being said, regardless of the origin, Grant's design philosophy > > and attention to detail are evident...you say tomaytoes and I say > > tomaahtoes . Rivendells are great bikes > > > Regards, > > Ryan in Winnipeg,MB > > > On Jan 22, 10:34 pm, Bob <prov...@umbc.edu> wrote: > > > > How does the Toyo built Atlantis differ in quality and/or geometry > > > from the Waterford edition? Exclude differences in braze-ons, > > > kickstand plate and range of sizes. > > > > In other words, what, if anything, was gained or lost by the change in > > > builder? > > > -- > > You received this message because you are subscribed to the Google Groups > > "RBW > > Owners Bunch" group. > > To post to this group, send email to rbw-owners-bunch@googlegroups.com. > > To unsubscribe from this group, send email to > > rbw-owners-bunch+unsubscr...@googlegroups.com. > > For more options, visit this group > > athttp://groups.google.com/group/rbw-owners-bunch?hl=en.- Hide quoted text - > > - Show quoted text - -- You received this message because you are subscribed to the Google Groups "RBW Owners Bunch" group. To post to this group, send email to rbw-owners-bunch@googlegroups.com. To unsubscribe from this group, send email to rbw-owners-bunch+unsubscr...@googlegroups.com. For more options, visit this group at http://groups.google.com/group/rbw-owners-bunch?hl=en.