On 21 Aug, 13:13, Garth <garth...@gmail.com> wrote:
>  In regards to longer cranks, there's a lot of unfounded fear and mis-
> information that gets spread .  Longer cranks don't hurt your knees,

Yes they do, 170mm cranks give me trouble after about 120miles on a
single ride or after about 70miles on a subsequent day.  After two or
three days of provoking knee pain, I find it best not to start
riding.  With 165mm cranks I have no trouble at all and am able to
actually move my saddle around a bit without it affecting my knees.
My bike with 170mm cranks is precisely set up, any variation will
result in an efficiency loss due to operating my legs outside their
natural range. The position was initially set up on a turbo trainer
after a couple of years of indifference on the bike.  A 1/4" variation
in position has similarly negative effects in whatever direction the
variation is made.  With 165mm efficiency is still as good and does
not deteriorate with 1/4" and more variation of the saddle position.
Plus I can cycle until I fall asleep without experiencing leg pains.

By today's fashion, I should be on 172mm, no chance.  (33-34" leg, UK
9.5 shoe)  For a 36" leg wearing size 14's though I think 185mm
probably undersize.

There is another point to me using 165mm cranks, out of the saddle
climbing is much easier, as is the occasional sprinting because there
is no bobbing around and my position to the bars is natural.   The
'net page you refer to goes on about gearing affecting knees, yes it
does and I have been a proponent of using what are generally
considered low gears for many years.  My top cadence exceeds 200rpm at
any particular time (165 or 170mm) and I will a;ways use cadence in
preference to gearing-up to accelerate or climb.  So despite dialling-
in my position accurately and despite using low gears consistently, I
still encounter knee pain with the longer cranks on longer rides.  It
does not occur when I use cranks 5mm shorter even in the midsts of
winter.

> or slow your cadence, or ruin your pedal motion. Resistance domes from
> fear of change.... fear of the unknown. We all experience it.

I don't have those fears, I've tried the alternatives.
>
> There's 3 groups about longer cranks. Those that have tried them and
> found them invaluable. Those that try them and didn't like them. Those
> that talk about them but never tried them.

I USE two different length cranks, I cannot use the longer cranks for
longer rides or for reasonable mileage over consequtive days.  170mm
was OK for me to race on, but not for distance training or for
touring.
>
> I refer to this ....http://www.nettally.com/palmk/crwives.html
It makes many an assumption.  It does not impress.

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