Thanks Garth!
On Tue, Feb 4, 2025 at 12:46 PM Garth <garth...@gmail.com> wrote: > For an "electrolyte" kind of powder, I drank Gator-aide as a teenager > while riding long distances. Rural stores would have it refrigerated, in > glass bottles. Nothing was better, and frankly, for a manufactured bottled > drink, all others can only dream of equaling. I've not had it years, but > would hesitate if I was out somewhere on the bike with a hankering for good > refreshment. > > For powders, I've drank Alcer Emergen-C powers in the packets for decades. > Add water, stir/shake and sip a little at a time. You can dilute it as much > as you like. It's likely still least expensive at a wholesaler like Sam's > Club, if one shops such a place. The Raspberry is my favorite of the > flavors they still make. There's other generic brands(like Equate) with the > same ingredients that I've never tried ! They're sweetened with fructose > and maltodextrin, 30-35 calories per packet so they not for anyone looking > for a calorie boost while riding. They're electrolytes with a little > fructose to make them palatable. I wouldn't put it in a water bottle myself > unless it was dedicated just for that and was cleaned daily. Otherwise a > collapsible/reusable cup of sorts to mix and drink it while stopped or > something like that. > > > > On Tuesday, January 14, 2025 at 10:06:15 AM UTC-5 coco...@gmail.com wrote: > >> Thanks for those recipes!! >> >> I agree that it can definitely be liberating to cook simply sometimes - >> and sometimes those recipes are the best. Sounds like these are some >> time-honored favorites. >> >> Would love the electrolyte powder recipe too if you get a moment! Agreed >> that a lot of the pre-made ones are pretty trash. I currently use one with >> stevia in it (which was the least trash I could find) but it would be nice >> to have one that's not so sweet >> >> C >> >> On Mon, Jan 13, 2025 at 8:32 AM MoVelo <jlpo...@gmail.com> wrote: >> > Thanks Coco. I know some list members might think this to be off topic but >>> to my way of thinking anything that makes cycling more enjoyable is >>> on-topic. >>> >>> So I have a couple of recipes that have become our favorites. Both are >>> air-fryer but I suspect could be baked in the oven but might take longer. >>> Our air fryer was a present and my assumption at the time was that it would >>> either be a dust collector occupying valuable counter space or a ‘regift’. >>> >>> Boy was I wrong about that. We love our air fryer and use it almost >>> daily. So these two recipes came from the little recipe book that came with >>> our air fryer. We liked it some much we had it reproduced and gave it as >>> Christmas presents one year. >>> >>> *Roasted Garlic & Herb Chicken* >>> >>> Prep time: 35 min >>> Cook time: 20min >>> >>> 4 Chicken thighs which we get from Costco bone in with skin. They are >>> super cheap since everyone seems to be either obsessed with wings or >>> wanting boneless/skinless/tasteless parts. >>> Sprinkle to taste with Garlic Powder, Salt, Pepper and Herb de Provence. >>> >>> Comments: The original recipe called for olive oil which I eliminated >>> due to the amount of skin included and the spices seem to cling well to the >>> un-oiled meat. >>> >>> >>> *Carolina Style Pork Chops* >>> >>> Prep time: 5min >>> Cook time: 10min >>> >>> 2 bone-in pork chops >>> Coat in mustard. I use dijon but yellow french’s works. >>> Sprinkle to taste with smoked paprika, salt, pepper and powdered garlic. >>> I make my own smoked pepper powder which I liberally apply, YMMV >>> >>> Allow that chops to rest for 5mins. >>> >>> Bon appetite >>> >>> The chicken thighs are great cycling ‘snacks’ or lunch, since once >>> cooked they can be kept for quite a while without refrigeration. >>> >>> These recipes seem so simple to me now that I am writing them out, but >>> one of the huge benefits of the diet we are now on is how liberating it is >>> in it’s simplicity yet allowing us to better appreciate the taste of the >>> meat itself. >>> >>> I make my own electrolyte powder too but don’t have the specific recipe >>> readily at hand, and can write another post on that at a later date if >>> anyone is interested. I’ve tried most of the ready made varieties but they >>> all seemed to contain way more sugar in one form or another than is really >>> necessary, plus most have other ingredients of dubious benefit. >>> >>> On Thursday, January 9, 2025 at 10:35:39 AM UTC-6 coco...@gmail.com >>> wrote: >>> >>>> Thanks for your thoughts James! >>>> >>>> These are exactly the types of stories I was hoping to include in this >>>> cookbook. Most Riv Riders are so independent-minded that it's nice to hear >>>> what everyone's perspectives are regarding food. Food is so personal and so >>>> many of us try so many things to get to a place where our bodies feel good. >>>> >>>> Agreed on the difficulty of quitting bread! That one was a tough one >>>> for me too. >>>> >>>> Would love if you would share some of the recipes you mentioned >>>> >>>> C >>>> >>>> On Wed, Jan 8, 2025 at 12:52 PM MoVelo <jlpo...@gmail.com> wrote: >>>> >>> Coco, et al: >>>>> >>>>> Glad you bumped this as I managed to miss it earlier. >>>>> >>>>> I have read Grant's Eat Bacon and Don't Jog as it appealed to my >>>>> laziness and love of Bacon. Enjoyed it immensely, and I've been on a >>>>> health >>>>> journey for a number of years now. Started on 'Wheat Belly' diet as my >>>>> wife >>>>> was diagnosed pre-crones and we thought we'd experiment on ourselves >>>>> eliminating bread. We were both hugely addicted to wheat to the extent we >>>>> found a artisanal bakery that baked the most delish sourdough. Every >>>>> Saturday we'd hop on our bikes at the crack of dawn to make the run to the >>>>> bakery to buy enough to get us thru the week. This was a cash only >>>>> business >>>>> that opened one day a week at 5am and sold out by 10am. Crack dealers wish >>>>> they had it so good. >>>>> >>>>> Giving up bread was about as hard at quiting smoking. Ask me how I >>>>> know. >>>>> >>>>> Two years ago, whilst searching these archives for information on the >>>>> Rive Rambouillet I came across Grant's interview of Mark Sisson. What he >>>>> had to say resonated and led us to try eliminating almost all carbs. >>>>> Pasta, >>>>> potatoes, most veggies. The only veggies we now consume are fermented. My >>>>> wife never really got along with alcohol and I quit several years ago. I >>>>> see a new study implicates it in cancer cause. >>>>> >>>>> Our one carb addiction we have not been able to shake just yet is >>>>> Hagan Daz. 75g of carbs brought to us by sugar. Sugar is highly addictive >>>>> proven by the fact that lab rats prefer it over cocaine. >>>>> >>>>> So our diet consists of meat (preferably rib eye steaks), fermented >>>>> veggies and ice cream. >>>>> >>>>> Both of us have lost considerable weight and are near our targets. >>>>> >>>>> We both love to cook and so occasionally we'll treat ourselves to >>>>> something complicated like pumpkin pie, but honestly neither of us miss >>>>> the >>>>> hassle of side dishes or complicated recipes. >>>>> >>>>> I have recipes for kimchi, air fryer pork chops and chicken but to >>>>> most people it might be boring. >>>>> >>>>> The addiction to carbs is far stronger than alcohol and smoking, imho. >>>>> Ask me why I believe that. >>>>> >>>>> The best part of this story and maybe the part most relevant to this >>>>> group is my lack of the need for snacks. Our bodies burn fat better and >>>>> more efficiently than carbs/sugar. Our bodies convert carbs to sugar so I >>>>> use the two interchangeably here. Both are addictive and quite unnecessary >>>>> as fuel. Fat and protein are far more efficient. >>>>> >>>>> I have discovered that I don't required snacks even on rides over 60 >>>>> miles. I used to not be able to ride 10 miles without eating a snack. I >>>>> would start bonking at about 8 miles. It has been liberating to not have >>>>> to >>>>> worry about having that candy bar tucked somewhere for the inevitable >>>>> hunger. I am fully adapted to burning fat and ketone, and I love it. >>>>> >>>>> I have spent years researching diet and health. I am enrolled now in >>>>> Sisson's Primal Health Coaching School and will receive a health coach >>>>> certificate soon. >>>>> >>>>> So the best recipe I could offer at this point is for you to adopt a >>>>> keto/carnivore diet and then not have to worry about recipes for on bike >>>>> snacks. >>>>> >>>>> If you have made it this far thank you for letting me vent a little. >>>>> >>>>> If anyone is remotely interested in any of this journey please dm me. >>>>> >>>>> Thanks >>>>> >>>>> James Poulson >>>>> at the edge of the Ozarks >>>>> >>>>> On Tuesday, January 7, 2025 at 8:47:35 AM UTC-6 fmri...@gmail.com >>>>> wrote: >>>>> >>>>>> This sounds super cool! Would love to read some of these. >>>>>> >>>>>> Franco Rinaldi >>>>>> c: 646.403.0661 <(646)%20403-0661> >>>>>> >>>>>> -Pardon any typos, Siri typed this message- >>>>>> >>>>> >>>>>> On Jan 7, 2025, at 9:27 AM, Coco Menk <coco...@gmail.com> wrote: >>>>>> >>>>>> Hey all! Hope everyone is having a great start to 2025. >>>>>> >>>>>> >>>>>> Bumping this thread - have made some progress in starting to format >>>>>> the zine/pdf! If anyone else wants to contribute any recipes please feel >>>>>> free! >>>>>> >>>>>> I'll re-post the original prompt for reference: >>>>>> >>>>>> *1) How many of you all have read Grant's Eat Bacon, Don't Jog? >>>>>> Anyone subscribe to his food ideas or any other "alternative" diets? >>>>>> Cyclists tend to be pretty health-conscious and independent minded, just >>>>>> curious what kinds of ideas people are jiving with these days. Vegan? >>>>>> No-carb? 100-mile diet? Anything goes? I love hearing about what works >>>>>> for >>>>>> people. I know Grant's book has definitely informed my own choices a bit, >>>>>> specifically in regards to processed sugar and carbs and simpler forms of >>>>>> exercise. (Not looking to sh** on which diet is working or not working >>>>>> for >>>>>> anyone at this time! Save that for a different thread)* >>>>>> >>>>>> *2) I'd love to compile a collection of favorite recipes! What do you >>>>>> make for yourselves/your families? What's your favorite sandwich you >>>>>> bring >>>>>> on your bike rides? Any bike tour go-to's?* >>>>>> >>>>>> I have about 15 recipes so far. Would love to compile it into a PDF >>>>>> that folks can print at home >>>>>> >>>>>> Cheers >>>>>> Coco >>>>>> >>>>>> On Thursday, June 6, 2024 at 10:37:50 PM UTC-7 Coco Menk wrote: >>>>>> >>>>>>> Brendon - that one is on my list for sure! Familiar with a lot of >>>>>>> the current politics surrounding UPFs but haven't gotten around to >>>>>>> reading >>>>>>> it yet. What was your biggest takeaway? >>>>>>> >>>>>>> For anyone else interested in learning more abour those issues >>>>>>> and/or MORE ennui surrounding the horrors of the American Food System >>>>>>> and >>>>>>> Agribusiness Robber Barons check out: >>>>>>> >>>>>>> Marion Nestle's blog Food Politics (she is unrelated to Nestle of >>>>>>> Nesquick fame) >>>>>>> https://www.foodpolitics.com/ >>>>>>> >>>>>>> Food Fix weekly newsletter specifically about food politics >>>>>>> journalism in the US, lots of baby formula and school lunch and SNAP >>>>>>> policy >>>>>>> updates if you REALLY want some angst >>>>>>> https://foodfix.co/ >>>>>>> >>>>>>> Eric Schlosser, Fast Food Nation. Pretty much nothing has changed, >>>>>>> its only gotten worse >>>>>>> >>>>>>> Coco >>>>>>> >>>>>>> >>>>>>> >>>>>>> >>>>>>> On Thu, Jun 6, 2024 at 7:33 PM brendonoid <bre...@areyoualert.com> >>>>>>> wrote: >>>>>>> >>>>>>>> Everyone in this thread should please read *Ultra-Processed People* >>>>>>>> by Chris van Tulleken. It is the only food/diet book anyone really >>>>>>>> needs to >>>>>>>> read. >>>>>>>> You'll never have to worry about extreme or fad diets ever again. >>>>>>>> Prepare for extreme ennui about everything you have tried up to the >>>>>>>> point >>>>>>>> you read this book. >>>>>>>> >>>>>>>> -- >>>>>>>> You received this message because you are subscribed to a topic in >>>>>>>> the Google Groups "RBW Owners Bunch" group. >>>>>>>> To unsubscribe from this topic, visit >>>>>>>> https://groups.google.com/d/topic/rbw-owners-bunch/9RUrsnq4-So/unsubscribe >>>>>>>> . >>>>>>>> To unsubscribe from this group and all its topics, send an email to >>>>>>>> rbw-owners-bun...@googlegroups.com. >>>>>>>> To view this discussion on the web visit >>>>>>>> https://groups.google.com/d/msgid/rbw-owners-bunch/ef735537-fc66-410a-bcb0-58b3c52db020n%40googlegroups.com >>>>>>>> <https://groups.google.com/d/msgid/rbw-owners-bunch/ef735537-fc66-410a-bcb0-58b3c52db020n%40googlegroups.com?utm_medium=email&utm_source=footer> >>>>>>>> . >>>>>>>> >>>>>>> -- >>>>>> >>>>>> You received this message because you are subscribed to the Google >>>>>> Groups "RBW Owners Bunch" group. >>>>>> >>>>>> To unsubscribe from this group and stop receiving emails from it, >>>>>> send an email to rbw-owners-bun...@googlegroups.com. >>>>>> To view this discussion visit >>>>>> https://groups.google.com/d/msgid/rbw-owners-bunch/ab62bc86-de44-408c-ac7b-1ba29d52f964n%40googlegroups.com >>>>>> <https://groups.google.com/d/msgid/rbw-owners-bunch/ab62bc86-de44-408c-ac7b-1ba29d52f964n%40googlegroups.com?utm_medium=email&utm_source=footer> >>>>>> . >>>>>> >>>>>> -- >>>>> You received this message because you are subscribed to a topic in the >>>>> Google Groups "RBW Owners Bunch" group. >>>>> To unsubscribe from this topic, visit >>>>> https://groups.google.com/d/topic/rbw-owners-bunch/9RUrsnq4-So/unsubscribe >>>>> . >>>>> >>>> To unsubscribe from this group and all its topics, send an email to >>>>> rbw-owners-bun...@googlegroups.com. >>>>> >>>> To view this discussion visit >>>>> https://groups.google.com/d/msgid/rbw-owners-bunch/cdbc6677-90a0-477d-9124-b2a371dca702n%40googlegroups.com >>>>> <https://groups.google.com/d/msgid/rbw-owners-bunch/cdbc6677-90a0-477d-9124-b2a371dca702n%40googlegroups.com?utm_medium=email&utm_source=footer> >>>>> . >>>>> >>>> -- >>> You received this message because you are subscribed to a topic in the >>> Google Groups "RBW Owners Bunch" group. >>> To unsubscribe from this topic, visit >>> https://groups.google.com/d/topic/rbw-owners-bunch/9RUrsnq4-So/unsubscribe >>> . >>> >> To unsubscribe from this group and all its topics, send an email to >>> rbw-owners-bun...@googlegroups.com. >>> >> To view this discussion visit >>> https://groups.google.com/d/msgid/rbw-owners-bunch/48d04d61-ff46-46de-947e-51e52da4b462n%40googlegroups.com >>> <https://groups.google.com/d/msgid/rbw-owners-bunch/48d04d61-ff46-46de-947e-51e52da4b462n%40googlegroups.com?utm_medium=email&utm_source=footer> >>> . >>> >> -- > You received this message because you are subscribed to a topic in the > Google Groups "RBW Owners Bunch" group. > To unsubscribe from this topic, visit > https://groups.google.com/d/topic/rbw-owners-bunch/9RUrsnq4-So/unsubscribe > . > To unsubscribe from this group and all its topics, send an email to > rbw-owners-bunch+unsubscr...@googlegroups.com. > To view this discussion visit > https://groups.google.com/d/msgid/rbw-owners-bunch/f3debc67-b63f-4d99-9e4a-93d35d1e11d1n%40googlegroups.com > <https://groups.google.com/d/msgid/rbw-owners-bunch/f3debc67-b63f-4d99-9e4a-93d35d1e11d1n%40googlegroups.com?utm_medium=email&utm_source=footer> > . > -- You received this message because you are subscribed to the Google Groups "RBW Owners Bunch" group. 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