The first Clems all used the same seat lug that had been created for a big 
bike that didn’t happen, so the 65cm frames from the first batch (all “H” 
frames) had straight seat stays, while the rest swooped to accommodate. 
-Kai, rider of a straight stayed Clem H
On Tuesday, January 28, 2025 at 2:02:54 PM UTC-5 nmtr...@gmail.com wrote:

> This seems like as a good a place as any to ask this question. What is up 
> with the slightly bent seat stays on some of the Clems? I've been very 
> confused about why in some Clem pictures they look straight and sometimes 
> bent, and then in the course of reading through the info on the new Clems 
> for 2025, I think I've figured out that they are only bent on the larger 
> frame sizes. Is that correct? If so, why? Is it necessary to somehow make 
> the frame work in that size? any other Riv frame where they had to do that? 
> I'm content with the bikes I have and so won't be ordering one, but am just 
> curious about this. BTW, I like the look of the straight seat stays better, 
> but no doubt (!) others feel differently.
>
> Chris Young
>
> On Monday, January 27, 2025 at 11:07:00 AM UTC-7 Jonah I wrote:
>
>> Those look great. I'm a bit envious of the bronzey green and the 
>> upgrades. 
>>
>> On Friday, January 24, 2025 at 7:42:04 AM UTC-8 Doug H. wrote:
>>
>>> I like the colors and the upgrades. The shifters seem more Rivendellian 
>>> which is a good thing.
>>> Doug
>>>
>>> On Friday, January 24, 2025 at 3:28:05 AM UTC-5 John wrote:
>>>
>>>> Pre-order page is up with pics of the complete Clems. 
>>>>
>>>> https://www.rivbike.com/products/clem-completes-2025
>>>>
>>>>
>>>>
>>>> On Saturday, January 11, 2025 at 11:24:33 AM UTC-6 schralp wrote:
>>>>
>>>>> I am for sure since I lost everything including my beloved platy in 
>>>>> the firestorm. 
>>>>>
>>>>> -Bill
>>>>>
>>>>>
>>>>> On Sat, Jan 11, 2025 at 8:20 AM Johnny Alien <johnny....@gmail.com> 
>>>>> wrote:
>>>>>
>>>>>> So beyond the questionable replacement of the Tosco bars with the 
>>>>>> Billie bars this is probably (and by probably I mean it pretty much 
>>>>>> definitely is) the absolute best stock Clem build they have offered so 
>>>>>> far. 
>>>>>> Silver hubs, great tires, silver shifters....totally stacked. Anyone in 
>>>>>> on 
>>>>>> getting one? 
>>>>>>
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