I think the new run of Clems are nicely appointed. There's less stuff that I'd want to take off and replace. The silver shifters are a nice touch, and I have never fully gotten along with Bosco's. They sit me up too high and give me a feeling of having my hands in my lap, which is comfortable to a point, but also doesn't give me much confidence on the bike. I just swapped mine Clem's Boscos for a set of Uncle Rons Ortho's, and immediately, the bike felt more capable, even if just for navigating obstacles during my commute and errand runs, which is what I use my clem for. I also swapped the micro-shift shifters for Silvers, which cost me nearly $100. Looks like you guys will be getting some nice bikes. On Saturday, January 25, 2025 at 7:20:20 AM UTC-5 Garth wrote:
> The original 56cm steel Albatross bars were their best all around swept > back bar, in my oh-pinion :) ! > > Besides, the Clem is not meant to be a bike of accomodating every personal > limitation. No bike is, or ever could be. > > I like that they've changed things up with different parts. The DT shifter > boss housing stops have been around since at least the 90's. I think Riv > started selectively ditching brazed on bosses along with rear canti brake > bridge cable stops with the intro of the Clems. Shifters are indeed more > crisp when used at the DT as they were designed ! They were never meant for > bar ends or tops. Suntour and later Shimano had dedicated shifters for both > of those, and the diameters of the ratcheting mechanism was larger than the > DT variety, to hold the gears better no doubt, and they do. > On Saturday, January 25, 2025 at 12:18:01 AM UTC-5 Joe Bernard wrote: > >> Correct, I'm just expressing an opinion. Billies are wonderful and I >> would still have one on my custom if my arthritic wrists didn't need so >> much height. They're certainly prettier than Boscos, another opinion! >> >> On Friday, January 24, 2025 at 8:58:24 PM UTC-8 philip....@gmail.com >> wrote: >> >>> Perfect for YOU. >>> >>> I’m sure there are plenty of people, like ME, who would say the same >>> thing about a Billie! >>> >>> That’s the thing, they can’t please everyone. >>> >>> But you can always buy a different bar. >>> >>> And probably sell the one it came with on here! >>> >>> P. W. >>> ~ >>> (917) 514-2207 >>> ~ >>> >>> >>> >>> >>> On Jan 24, 2025, at 8:51 PM, Kim H. <krhe...@gmail.com> wrote: >>> >>> >>> >>> @Joe, >>> >>> I, too do not understand the handlebar change either. The Nitto Bosco >>> bars are perfect for an upright riding position. >>> >>> Kim Hetzel. >>> >>> On Friday, January 24, 2025 at 11:38:05 AM UTC-8 Joe Bernard wrote: >>> >>>> I don't understand the bar change either, Clems are just right with >>>> Boscos. >>>> >>>> [image: Screenshot_20250124_113659.jpg] >>>> >>>> On Friday, January 24, 2025 at 8:01:23 AM UTC-8 Richard Rose wrote: >>>> >>>> There are a couple of interesting changes to the Clem frames? First >>>> looks to be the downtube shifter mounts with the domed fittings that look >>>> to include barrel adjusters. The second is the scalloped seat stay caps, >>>> which I love. I am just a bit bewildered by the handlebar change. >>>> Sent from my iPhone >>>> >>>> On Jan 24, 2025, at 10:42 AM, Doug H. <dhansf...@gmail.com> wrote: >>>> >>>> I like the colors and the upgrades. The shifters seem more >>>> Rivendellian which is a good thing. >>>> >>>> Doug >>>> >>>> On Friday, January 24, 2025 at 3:28:05 AM UTC-5 John wrote: >>>> >>>> Pre-order page is up with pics of the complete Clems. >>>> >>>> https://www.rivbike.com/products/clem-completes-2025 >>>> >>>> >>>> >>>> On Saturday, January 11, 2025 at 11:24:33 AM UTC-6 schralp wrote: >>>> >>>> I am for sure since I lost everything including my beloved platy in the >>>> firestorm. >>>> >>>> -Bill >>>> >>>> >>>> On Sat, Jan 11, 2025 at 8:20 AM Johnny Alien <johnny....@gmail.com> >>>> wrote: >>>> >>>> So beyond the questionable replacement of the Tosco bars with the >>>> Billie bars this is probably (and by probably I mean it pretty much >>>> definitely is) the absolute best stock Clem build they have offered so >>>> far. >>>> Silver hubs, great tires, silver shifters....totally stacked. 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