RH lists the following for the Babyshoe Pass
   
   - Actual width on 20 mm rim (internal): approx. 40 mm
   - Actual width on 23 mm rim (internal): approx. 41 mm

Your measurement of 38mm on 17mm internal seems in line.

My experience with RH tires (Fleecer Ridge, Juniper Ridge, Rat Trap Pass) 
has also been in line with the guidance.

-Dave

On Friday, December 13, 2024 at 1:25:34 PM UTC-5 Oliver Moss wrote:

> Hey Bob, interesting thanks for all this great info. I don't inflate them 
> up very high at all, so maybe what they need is to be pressurized that high 
> for a bit to get to break in. 
>
> As I said in my first post, I love the ride and have no issues at all with 
> the tires, just found in interesting when I noticed that they were all 
> skinnier than I thought they'd be. 
>
> On Friday, December 13, 2024 at 12:24:53 PM UTC-5 rcook...@gmail.com 
> wrote:
>
>> Oliver,
>>
>> My experience with RH tires on four bikes (three of which I currently 
>> own) differs.
>>
>>    - Homer, Velocity Dyad rims (18.6 mm inner width, according to 
>>    Velocity's website): Barlow Pass measured 38 mm. I no longer have this 
>>    lovely bike.
>>    - Bantam custom: Pacenti Brevet rims: Babyshoe Pass measure 42 mm.
>>    - Riv All Rounder, Velocity Cliffhanger rims (25 mm inner width): 
>>    Humptulips Ridge, endurance casing, measure 54 mm.
>>    - Surly LHT, Alex Adventurer rims (18.7 mm inner width, according to 
>>    FreeSpoke): Rat Trap Pass, endurance casing, measure 52 mm.
>>    
>> Measurements done with the same analog caliper.
>>
>> In each case (well, I *think* this is what I did with my Homer back in 
>> 2016), I mounted the tires on the rims, inflated to the stated maximum 
>> pressure, and left them for a couple days.
>>
>> --
>> Bob
>>
>> On Thursday, December 12, 2024 at 10:34:26 PM UTC-7 Oliver Moss wrote:
>>
>>> I've picked up a few different widths of RH 650b tires used and noticed 
>>> that they are consistently under the listed width by about 3-5mm. On the RH 
>>> website they list the approximate "actual" width with certain given rim 
>>> IDs, and I've noticed the ones I've gotten to be under.
>>>
>>> The two rim IDs i've used are 17mm and 21.6mm
>>>
>>> As an example, I'm running a set of Babyshoe Pass 42s on 17mm ID and 
>>> they are measuring 38mm
>>>
>>> None of this is really too much of a deal as they are great tires and I 
>>> really enjoy riding on them, but I wondered what other's have noticed in 
>>> terms of actual width. Of course I know it all depends on the rim and 
>>> tire... ect. but it was something I noticed and thought I'd ask if anyone 
>>> else had the same experience.
>>>
>>> Cheers,
>>>
>>> ~Oliver
>>>
>>

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