> So Rapha  makes some stuff in China. They probably have good profit
> margins. But I'd be willing to bet it's as well made as anything else
> out there. People in other countries can make stuff just as nicely
> (and sometimes nicer) than here, there, or anywhere.

As well made, perhaps, but certainly not better than Outlier which
makes their clothes in the United States and generally charges less.
Endura which makes mostly in Scotland is better rain and hard riding
gear by far.

On May 27, 2:02 am, cm <chrispmur...@hotmail.com> wrote:
> I have seen lots of companies move overseas and their products get
> BETTER. I don't care where the stuff is made, when there is cheaper
> labor companies tend to put a fair bit of that increased margin back
> into the product. Look at a backpack made 20 years ago compared to the
> same model today made in China, or Vietnam, or where ever. The Asian
> pack blows the socks of the usa made pack in every category; more
> features, better fabric, better construction. Look inside a pair of
> decent pants today at the kind of finishing work INSIDE the pants,
> that would never/ could never happen without cheaper labor-- and not
> always cheap or unfair labor-- just cheaper than a "first world
> country". The companies that hold out, that try to keep keep making
> their products here or in Europe are the products that often get
> returned to the store or to the company. I have heard more than a few
> buyers say that they wished these hold outs would move to asia so
> their products would stop falling apart. True for everybody? of course
> not-- but more true than most people would like to admit.
>
> So Rapha  makes some stuff in China. They probably have good profit
> margins. But I'd be willing to bet it's as well made as anything else
> out there. People in other countries can make stuff just as nicely
> (and sometimes nicer) than here, there, or anywhere.
>
> Rapha is a designer company and arent there always premiums on
> designer products-- or are those Prada shoes really worth $5000. If
> you dont want it, dont buy it.
>
> Cheers!
> cm

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