I think the stickler is the head clamp Ian, which one and by whom ? There 
is a titanium custom seatpost maker who does an ultra long setback with the 
Thomson clamp, but it's a cool $625. that's no misprint. For that 
investment get a custom frame built by someone else with a 71 degree seat 
tube angle and a 27.2 post as that gives you the flexibility to literally 
use any kind of 27.2 post you want,  and clamp the rails near the middle. I 
say this because using a long setback post is just weird in real world use. 
It's a band-aid for frames that don't fit the rider and/or the saddle. I 
have an S84 on my custom road bike that has a 72.5 STA, it's too steep to 
get my saddle back where I wanted it with a regular post. With the S84 my 
thighs are now that much more behind the seat tube. With my Revelate seat 
pack it took many fails to be able to velcro it around the seatpost without 
my thighs rubbing on it because it attached to the rails also and the 
saddle was now so far back. it's not so much the brushing feeling it as it 
the strap and velcro trashes apparel, apparel that is expensive and/or 
non-replaceable. Now with a saddle positioned closer to the center of the 
rails and the seat tube everything is grande !   Oh gosh the things they 
don't tell you in all those quick fix solutions......  They seem best only 
for those that sell them ! 

That custom wayback post looks just as awful too. It ironically has that 
darn screw in the back, hilarious !!!!! 
https://www.ticycles.com/components/seatpost-custom-titanium
https://images.squarespace-cdn.com/content/v1/576db62a725e2552c362fdba/1512779492929-XKS77G3G6M71U4RH3EU8/TCF-seatpost-ti-custom-ultra-setback+(4).JPG

On Wednesday, November 24, 2021 at 1:55:36 PM UTC-5 Joe Bernard wrote:

> "it's not rocket science"
>
> It's a 26.8 post but 27.2 at the top and one bolt holds the saddle but you 
> gotta get it really tight or it'll slip no that's not tight enough you need 
> grease or Blue Loctite or maybe valve grinding compound also a long wrench 
> good luck. 
>
> It's rocket science. 
>
> On Monday, November 22, 2021 at 11:13:36 PM UTC-8 Joe Bernard wrote:
>
>> It *would *be nice to see that S84 in 26.8. Since most Rivs come that 
>> way now. Hey Grant! 
>>
>> On Monday, November 22, 2021 at 8:26:56 PM UTC-8 Ryan wrote:
>>
>>> Ugh...that's a drag. I wonder if it's worth contacting IRD? Maybe this 
>>> is a defect they should address. Or even better maybe Riv has a hack they 
>>> can suggest. I know they would be happy to help you, Leah. Or the wisdom of 
>>> ROB? The other nice post with lots of setback and 2 bolts is Paul's Tall 
>>> and Handsome...but it's not available in  26.8. And, of course, not 
>>> cheap...north of $200 , say $220?  Anyway, somebody, can't remember who, 
>>> said it's not exactly plug-and-play with seat posts and it looks like they 
>>> weren't wrong. 
>>>
>>> Anyway...I do hope for your sake  a solution can be found. 
>>>
>>> On Monday, November 22, 2021 at 8:51:49 PM UTC-6 Bicycle Belle Ding 
>>> Ding! wrote:
>>>
>>>> Ryan, this could be the case. I took the bike out for another 11 miles 
>>>> tonight. I made sure to put my weight on it on bumps to see if I could 
>>>> loosen that bolt/clamp. I have a pretty fast mile descent with lots of 
>>>> bumps. It did come loose. I periodically jumped off to make minor 
>>>> adjustments and check the bolt, and often, it was coming loose.
>>>>
>>>> By the time I got home there was a ticking noise in the saddle. I 
>>>> tightened everything having anything to do with that seat post and saddle. 
>>>> I will see what tomorrow brings but it’s not looking good for this seat 
>>>> post. Which is unfortunate, because I really loved the setback and the 
>>>> little measurement tool on the side. Great ideas.
>>>>
>>>> At this point I may go back to the annoying stock seat post (which has 
>>>> a tiny bit more setback than the S83) and maybe get the stem in a 100. 
>>>> That’s as long of a reach as they make in that tall stem. Sigh. So sad.
>>>> L
>>>>
>>>> On Nov 22, 2021, at 6:33 PM, Ryan <[email protected]> wrote:
>>>>
>>>> you're right about that Joe, of course. If you're running a 
>>>> saddlebag.  If  Leah's IRD is loosening and going out of adjustment for no 
>>>> good reason....that's ugly..and potentially dangerous. 
>>>>
>>>>
>>>> Google turned up this:
>>>>
>>>> 1.0 out of 5 stars Heavy, expensive, and it slips... *The clamp 
>>>> mechanism is poorly designed. It will clamp the saddle securely at the 
>>>> desired angle, however the clamp mechanism will migrate to the rear of the 
>>>> setback slot and not hold its position. *This in spite of proper 
>>>> installation--grease and required torquing.
>>>>
>>>> Sounds like this is what Leah talked about. 
>>>>
>>>> I feel like a 2-bolt design is more robust...and since I am not as 
>>>> svelte as I would like, I feel more secure with the 2-bolter S83's 
>>>> On Monday, November 22, 2021 at 5:16:25 PM UTC-6 Joe Bernard wrote:
>>>>
>>>>> The lugged post is lovely and I recommend it for the setback, but we 
>>>>> all need to remember one thing when deciding if a post is ugly or pretty: 
>>>>> Most of us put a strap around the dang things and block it with a 
>>>>> saddlebag, then our legs do the rest. No one can see the post! 🤣
>>>>>
>>>>>
>>>>>
>>>>> On Monday, November 22, 2021 at 2:55:28 PM UTC-8 Ryan wrote:
>>>>>
>>>>>> That bolt? Was wondering that myself. A solution in search of a 
>>>>>> problem? Leah, that sucks that your seatpost didn't hold your 
>>>>>> adjustment. 
>>>>>> I've been reading this thread with a lot of interest because I think my 
>>>>>> custom I bought in 2016 needs a seatpost with more setback; right now 
>>>>>> I'm 
>>>>>> using the S83. But I feel too far forward with the mixte geometry ; I'd 
>>>>>> like to be  butt back and pivoting a little more forward. I don't love 
>>>>>> that 
>>>>>> IRD, it's ugly IMO. Maybe the lugged Nitto is the answer. I quickly 
>>>>>> checked 
>>>>>> the build list for my mixte...and yes, it's a frame tht takes a 27.2 
>>>>>> seatpost. 
>>>>>>
>>>>>> On Monday, November 22, 2021 at 3:17:23 PM UTC-6 Joe Bernard wrote:
>>>>>>
>>>>>>> "Always be learning, right Joe!"
>>>>>>>
>>>>>>> Even after all these decades of fiddling with bikes. It never in a 
>>>>>>> million years would have occurred to me that a 26.8 post would be 27.2 
>>>>>>> at 
>>>>>>> the top. Or have a screw in it. What IS this contraption??!
>>>>>>>
>>>>>>> Joe Bernard
>>>>>>>
>>>>>>> On Monday, November 22, 2021 at 5:06:25 AM UTC-8 Doug H. wrote:
>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>> One would think, hey I'll buy another seatpost, plug and play. But, 
>>>>>>>> no, there are always complications with bike parts. I hope you find 
>>>>>>>> the 
>>>>>>>> answer but I have no suggestions although I am following the 
>>>>>>>> discussion to 
>>>>>>>> learn. Always be learning, right Joe!
>>>>>>>> Doug
>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>> On Mon, Nov 22, 2021 at 5:39 AM Nick Payne <[email protected]> 
>>>>>>>> wrote:
>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>> The Nitto S84 lugged seatpost has more setback than their 
>>>>>>>>> aluminium seatposts...
>>>>>>>>> [image: 111368887233_691ba91b48_b[1].jpg]
>>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>> Nick
>>>>>>>>>
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