Getting back to Adam's question - which kinda got lost in tubeless arguments and peculiar shenanigans - having owned both I would agree that a Cheviot is not *significantly* lighter than a Clem L. I think there's other things going on there with full lugs and a different style - mixte v. step-thru - that make it appealing as an aspirational frame to hang lighter/fancier parts on.
As for tires being a big player in all this, OH yeah. I've run various Schwalbe Marathons and Big Apples and such with all their flat-protection goodies, and they're straight-up boat anchors compared to the Compass/RH Barlow Pass on my Frank Jones. ALL Rivs - Clem, Chev, et al - benefit from nice light tires. -- You received this message because you are subscribed to the Google Groups "RBW Owners Bunch" group. To unsubscribe from this group and stop receiving emails from it, send an email to rbw-owners-bunch+unsubscr...@googlegroups.com. To view this discussion on the web visit https://groups.google.com/d/msgid/rbw-owners-bunch/65e51f7f-a1bb-4bf3-869c-fc5d792915ff%40googlegroups.com.