Well, yeah. 40 miles I imagine I might get fatigued a bit on uprights as 
well. But I've never done 40 miles on upright bars. For me, uprights have a 
naturally imposed range of about half that, and most of the trips are under 
10 miles. I know there are folks on the list who ride exclusively on 
uprights, and probably do 40-100 mile rides on them. I guess if/when I 
can't ride drops any more, I'll ride longer with uprights. But right now, 
for me, they cover two distinct duties. Also, after being on several 
bike-related lists over many years, I have come to appreciate my body's 
tolerances for a fairly wide variety of setups on bicycles. Spicey! Plus, I 
figure I'm not on my couch, I'm out on a machine moving body parts--a 
little stiffness or slight discomfort now and then, especially on 40+ mile 
rides, is part of the territory. ("Massively fatigued" is obviously another 
league, and presumably should not be ignored.) 

I would second that you don't always just switch out bars and go. There are 
a few other variables. And for really upright, like my Clementine with 
Boscos, I like a wider saddle for sure.

On Saturday, December 9, 2017 at 7:55:17 AM UTC-8, lum gim fong wrote:
>
> Interesting you say 40 miles, Steve. It was at that distance that I 
> noticed my hands getting massively fatigued (Sam/Albas/Tallux max 
> height/max aft). And that was when riding solo at my own pace. Cork grips 
> are hard as rocks. That's when I found that out. But I don't think it was 
> really the grips. Because I would get marks in my hands from upright riding 
> and I could always feel the pressure on my hands at any bar height with 
> uprights.
>
>

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