I always ride upright and I've found that if the saddle height is about 
even with the grips (or grips just a smidge higher), that is a sweet spot, 
assuming the grips are comfy and the saddle's broken in.

Sometimes you see these setups depicted on the riv website/blug with the 
stem at max height, much above the saddle height. Ive tried that but, for 
long-distance, the butt starts to hurt.

So you could try again, lowering the stem so that grips are at a height 
that encourages a better butt-hands pressure distribution?

Bob B
Brooklyn, NY

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