Agree. Lanes applied without circumstantial aforethought become kill zones. 
Here is a local marked lane on a boulevard with parallel parking:
Perhaps a bad bike lane location 
<https://www.google.com/maps/@40.4627259,-79.9461695,3a,75y,256.76h,82.14t/data=!3m7!1e1!3m5!1sl7dV6UwHJcnKD84uBPU9TQ!2e0!6s%2F%2Fgeo1.ggpht.com%2Fcbk%3Fpanoid%3Dl7dV6UwHJcnKD84uBPU9TQ%26output%3Dthumbnail%26cb_client%3Dmaps_sv.tactile.gps%26thumb%3D2%26w%3D203%26h%3D100%26yaw%3D93.95573%26pitch%3D0%26thumbfov%3D100!7i13312!8i6656>

The aforethought is that to the left (you can pan in the image) is a level 
1 trauma center hospital. Short term visitors eager to dodge the cost of 
the adjoining parking garage heavily use that street parking. Those cars 
are coming and going at a high frequency and most not from the 
neighborhood. Riding in that lane is a sure way to get doored or hit by a 
car pulling out without signaling. Riding out of the bike lane brings heavy 
criticism from drivers, their horns if too cold for them to open a window. 
Local bike advocacy group alerted that sharrows 
<http://blog.tstc.org/wp-content/uploads/2017/03/sharrows-777x437.jpg> 
would be more appropriate.

Segregated bike lanes:
Separate Bike Lane 
<https://www.google.com/maps/@40.4428301,-80.001854,3a,75y,228.5h,99.16t/data=!3m6!1e1!3m4!1sqsJBSOs8u4ortkOTveu1Pw!2e0!7i13312!8i6656>

Still between the curbs which are the only hard definitions to a vehicle. 
Reflector bollards no more protecting than paint stripes if a car veers. 
Look at the warning sign on the very right side warning LEFT TURNING 
traffic to yield to cyclists. A real eye grabber, right? An inviting way to 
entice novice riders into the city but presents unique dangers to learn and 
be aware of. Left turning traffic, signaling or not, being one. No 
replacement for situational awareness. Not sold in LBSs.

It's really no hindrance to cycling here in the city, perhaps facilitating 
a higher density of cyclists at any time. Gotta learn the Copenhagen turn. 
Drivers don't seem to learn new patterns as quickly as they comment or 
complain about them. 

Be safe out there, they don't think people ride bikes when its not sunny 
and warm.

Andy Cheatham
Pittsburgh

On Monday, November 20, 2017 at 9:41:47 AM UTC-5, lum gim fong wrote:
>
> I find that bike lanes put one in prime dooring and detritus territory.
>
> I also wonder if cyclists will be mandated off the roads once bike 
> infrastructure is in place.
>
> I find that in my neck of the woods, cycling in the roads with cars is the 
> most fluid way to move about, except for rail trails that wind through 
> isolated forested areas and do not meet with roadways except at their head 
> and tail.
>
> I think if they want to help, just put shoulders on every road and leave 
> it as is. I don't see how biking can be seperated from traffic safely 
> except for using MUPs, but they have their own safety issues, and who wants 
> to have to dismount every block to wait to cross the street?!?!
>
>

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