Just curious, what is neutral trail? 60'ish? On Sunday, October 2, 2016 at 1:53:44 PM UTC-5, Garth wrote: > > Is there a reason for just those 2 as choices ? There a other frame > builder who can build exactly what you want for less than the price of the > Hunq . I get a sense you do not really know what you want though ..... > > FWIW, I own a Bombadil and a custom frame from a local builder in Ohio, > and these 2 bikes ride, feel and handle vastly different. As for the "Riv > feel" it is what it is, I do find on slow technical stuff the Bomba > handling to be a bit unintuitive/sluggish compared to my other frame, > getting easily knocked off line by front wheel obstacles.The Bomba > responding mostly to rear body and sometimes needs a lot of input, while my > neutral trail custom responds to upper and lower body input equally well > and with ease at any speed. Both are nice for meandering in their own ways > though. > > As for perceived quality of the frame, my custom is better, and this > was not a high end custom by any means. The Waterford Bomba , kind of > surprised by some things I need not get into. All I'll say is just because > it's built by Waterford, or anyone really, it does not necessarily mean > it's attention to detail is top notch or not. > > > > On Sunday, October 2, 2016 at 11:46:23 AM UTC-4, R Olson wrote: >> >> I'm trying to decide between a riv hunq or a surly ogre. I want this >> bike to be the last one I own and I want to be able to do everything with >> it - ride trails/single track, around town, get groceries, etc. Has anyone >> owned or ridden either of these? My impressions are as follows: Ogre: >> more versatile, stronger/stiffer frame, less expensive, probably doesn't >> ride as good, certainly doesn't look as good. Hunq: great looks, ride, >> very expensive, probably more comfortable to ride. I'd appreciate your >> thoughts. Thanks! >> >
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