I've never ridden either an Ogre or a Hunq, but that won't stop me from
speaking.

I've owned 5 Rivendells, and each of them, despite their great differences,
had a signature "Grant designed" ride that includes supreme stability with
unerring turn-in and this at least in my own experience with many bikes set
any Rivendell bike apart.

Me, I'd not *always* choose a Rivendell over another bike, but, well, it's
brought me back 4 times for another one. I hear that even the
stoutest-tubed, most cruiser-ish Rivendells ride "light" and "fast" and
"nimble." Me, I'd intuitively choose the Hunq, myself. (And then braze on
disc mounts ... hahahaha.)

On Wed, Sep 28, 2016 at 6:39 PM, R Olson <[email protected]> wrote:

> I'm trying to decide between a riv hunq or a surly ogre.  I want this bike
> to be the last one I own and I want to be able to do everything with it -
> ride trails/single track, around town, get groceries, etc.  Has anyone
> owned or ridden either of these?  My impressions are as follows:  Ogre:
> more versatile, stronger/stiffer frame, less expensive, probably doesn't
> ride as good, certainly doesn't look as good. Hunq:  great looks, ride,
> very expensive, probably more comfortable to ride.  I'd appreciate your
> thoughts. Thanks!
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