I'm trying to decide between a riv hunq or a surly ogre.  I want this bike 
to be the last one I own and I want to be able to do everything with it - 
ride trails/single track, around town, get groceries, etc.  Has anyone 
owned or ridden either of these?  My impressions are as follows:  Ogre: 
more versatile, stronger/stiffer frame, less expensive, probably doesn't 
ride as good, certainly doesn't look as good. Hunq:  great looks, ride, 
very expensive, probably more comfortable to ride.  I'd appreciate your 
thoughts. Thanks!   

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