I would love to have a 54cm Hunqapillar but my finances are such that I ride an 18" Karate Monkey, which is almost the same bike as the ogre, just with lighter tubing and fewer braze-ons. My KM is 1st generation (KM is now on 3rd generation) but the geometry that matters is the same as 2nd generation KM's & the Ogre.
The main differences: Hunq has lower BB (1.2 cm) Hunq has longer chainstays (fractionally) Hunq has slacker seat angle Hunq has "livelier" steering Hunq is beautiful and classy Hunq has a skinnier fork that may provide some suspension Ogre is stiffer, maybe substantially stiffer Ogre has more tire clearance Ogre has option for disk brakes or cantilever/V-brakes Ogre has a 1 1/8" threadless steerer (I consider this an advantage) Ogre is relatively inexpensive To be honest, in practical terms I don't think the Hunq offers much over the Ogre. There are some slight geometry differences but even Grant states that components can make more difference than a centimeter or two difference in geometry. On a more subjective level, the Hunqapillar is gorgeous bike, both in appearance and concept, and it's pretty much in a league of it's own, to my eyes. A couple of other things to consider: There is a very high probability that a new version of the Ogre will be announced very soon. Surly made substantial changes to the Troll (Ogres 26" cousin) and have hinted that similar changes are in store for the Ogre. Also, if you are buying a frameset and building it up, you can set up an Ogre with disk brakes and fat tired 650B wheels and you'll be in Bombadil territory. I've seen both 55mm and 67mm BB drop for the 650B Bombadil so I don't know which is accurate but the Ogre has 68mm of BB drop. I'm considering going the 650B route with my Karate Monkey. My 1st Gen Karate Monkey with 60mm Big Apples: <https://lh3.googleusercontent.com/-0I4KdJBXKTQ/V_FDtOo_D2I/AAAAAAAAOX0/Pg9Lcrx8CZ8NV7TZrns_iCVjgxmS9dH6QCLcB/s1600/IMG_0019.JPG> On Sunday, October 2, 2016 at 10:46:23 AM UTC-5, R Olson wrote: > > I'm trying to decide between a riv hunq or a surly ogre. I want this bike > to be the last one I own and I want to be able to do everything with it - > ride trails/single track, around town, get groceries, etc. Has anyone > owned or ridden either of these? My impressions are as follows: Ogre: > more versatile, stronger/stiffer frame, less expensive, probably doesn't > ride as good, certainly doesn't look as good. Hunq: great looks, ride, > very expensive, probably more comfortable to ride. I'd appreciate your > thoughts. Thanks! > -- You received this message because you are subscribed to the Google Groups "RBW Owners Bunch" group. To unsubscribe from this group and stop receiving emails from it, send an email to [email protected]. To post to this group, send email to [email protected]. Visit this group at https://groups.google.com/group/rbw-owners-bunch. For more options, visit https://groups.google.com/d/optout.
