Just to resurrect the zip tie thread: the current BQ has a nice story of a ride from Cholula to Mexico City featuring a Firefly "Enduro All Road". Beautiful photos of Mexico, and nice studio photos of the Firefly bike-- featuring five or so black zip ties.
This being a $8,900 bike (complete with low-rider rack, but no basket!), it was designed for zip ties given the top-tube braze-ons. (Are they called braze ons if they're welded?) Here's a pic from Firefly's flickr. https://www.flickr.com/photos/fireflybicycles/24544578021/in/album-72157663986789435/ shoji On Thursday, June 9, 2016 at 3:54:25 PM UTC-4, Bill Lindsay wrote: > > Anton insisted on prolonging the rhetorical exercise with: > > "If you extend my reasoning to Wald baskets, most often there is another > way besides zip-ties to ensure a sturdy connection." > > If your alternative is wire wrapping, then: > Your solution costs more than zipties (but we're first worlders who don't > care about cost) > Your solution is heavier than zipties (but we're not weight weenies) > Your solution takes 100x longer to install than zipties (but we spend lots > of our free time on time sink projects so we don't mind) > Your solution takes 10x longer to remove than zipties (ditto) > Your solution is stronger than the basket itself, as are zipties (if we > tested your wires would hold more load than 8 zipties, but the basket and > the rack would fail first) > Your solution will outlive you, as zipties can (you saw zipties crack in > under a year, I have not) > Your solution cannot fail catastrophically, just like 8 zipties > You think 8 zipties looks ugly and trashy. I think wire lashing looks > ugly and trashy. > > The gap is entirely aesthetic, and that's OK. Ugly is in the eye of the > beholder. Lots of people think twine is ugly. Lots of people hate all > forms of adhesive tape on bicycles. To each his own. > > Bill > -- You received this message because you are subscribed to the Google Groups "RBW Owners Bunch" group. To unsubscribe from this group and stop receiving emails from it, send an email to rbw-owners-bunch+unsubscr...@googlegroups.com. To post to this group, send email to rbw-owners-bunch@googlegroups.com. Visit this group at https://groups.google.com/group/rbw-owners-bunch. For more options, visit https://groups.google.com/d/optout.