My Mon-Fri commute is about 8km each way from the west side of downtown 
into the city core. It gets progressively more and more dense and crowded 
as I go - tolerable on good days, hellish on bad ones. It is 100% on city 
streets that include unseparated bike lanes, sharrows and nothing at all.

If I want to, I can go the long way: a large U-shape route south, then 
east, then north, following a separated MUP trail along the lake front and 
up into the downtown area along city streets. This almost doubles the 
transit time, and I'm usually too impatient to do that.

Most of the errands I need to run - groceries, beer, coffee, etc. are 
directly between work and home, so the route doesn't change much.

My partner and I have a car, which we mainly use to get out of the city. 
Trying to drive in-town is an exercise in blowing your stack in 
frustration. Maybe once a month, I put the bike on the car and drive 1-2 
hours into the country if I am particularly jones-ing for some peaceful 
riding time and I have the time. Those rides are usually 50-75km in length 
- pretty much my limit.

KJ in Toronto


On Saturday, August 22, 2015 at 1:17:18 PM UTC-4, Lungimsam wrote:
>
> On average would you say? 
> Urban, suburban, or rural?

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