And I am not secretly and snidely asserting that retention is better*. If
no retention is proved to be more efficient, I'll drop my Keos and SPDs in
a NY minute.

But I *am* skeptical, since cycling and its related technology is after all
very mature, and foot retention dates back well over 100 years.

* I mean better in every way. Of course no retention has obvious benefits
in freedom of movement on the pedal.

My own take at the moment is that, like planing, high bars, wide bars, low
bars, narrow bars, wide saddles, narrow saddles, front loading, rear
loading, what have you, it is largely a matter of taste and riding style
and type.

On Tue, Jun 9, 2015 at 6:06 PM, Patrick Moore <bertin...@gmail.com> wrote:

> Deacon: thanks.
>
> To turn the question around (for everyone): what are the *advantages* of
> riding no retention? I discount the reason given as "no need for special
> shoes" since I certainly wouldn't be cycling fixed or off road no-retention
> in Bass Weejuns on Tony Lamas or, for that matter, in Sperry Topsiders.
>
> So, allowing that you are going to need special shoes of one sort or
> another, what are the benefits? Perhaps there will be confirmation of the
> study finding that no retention takes less energy, but leave that out for
> the time being.
>
> Patrick Moore, who just now cranked a 75" gear up a very steep 4/10 mile
> long hill up the mesa to Rio Rancho (behind Don Chalmers Ford), but with no
> load, and very definitely pulled up hard on the bar and pulled up hard on
> the pedals, though the tailwind provided at least psychological assistance.
>



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